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Lambert's actions inexcusable, but she deserves forgiveness

Editor,

This letter is to Elizabeth Lambert.

I am an athlete at BYU. I was watching the game and saw what you did; it made me angry. Later that night I saw it again on Sports Center. The next morning, I saw it on YouTube. All day Friday I have listened to people say “If I were there I would have … ” followed by a graphic description of how they would make you hurt. Slowly my feelings of anger have turned into sympathy.

What you did was inexcusable and you deserve to be punished. But no one deserves the amount of hate that has been directed at you over the last day. I hope you haven’t seen the YouTube video and read the comments because they are disgusting. There are a lot of unforgiving ignorant people in this world. Most of what has been said are empty words spoken in the heat of the moment. Much like you, people do or say things and regret them later. Sometimes the voice of reason gets lost in a storm of the reactionary.

That is why I feel a little hesitant saying this while the incident is so fresh in
everyone’s minds. But I wanted you to know that we at BYU try to live by the Christian ideals that we profess, namely forgiveness. I hope that none of my fellow students have been a part of the vicious campaign against you. If so, then I apologize on their behalf.

I am sure this is a very difficult time for you and it may very well get worse. Whatever the consequences of your actions, I hope you have people who will stand by you. It would be a shame to let this one incident turn your life in the wrong direction.

Rob Skidmore
BYU student


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Added at 12:22 am on November 9, 2009
Section: Opinion
60 Comments
November 9 at 7:14 AM
by I saw vagina weggie 1st

Watch the BYU player grab the UNM player in the crotch area with her left hand AND THEN CAME THE HAIR PULL!!!

THEN, the BYU ELBOWED the UNM player RIGHT IN THE HEART AREA AND IN THAT DELICATE SPOT BELOW THE RIBS THAT WOULD HAVE KNOCKED THE BREATH OUT OF MOST OF US AND THEN CAME THE ARM/ELBOW FROM THE UNM PLAYER TO THE BACK OF THE UNM PLAYER.

In both cases, the BYU PLAYER STRUCK FIRST! GET IT, FIRST!!!

There were three more clips of AGGRESSIVE BUT NORMAL PLAY THAT CAN BE SEEN IN EVERY GAME AROUND THE WORLD. WERE THEY FOULS? YES, BUT IN ANY GAME, MANY FOULS THAT WE SEE DON’T COUNT EVEN IF WE SCREAM OUR HEADS OFF. IT’S WHAT THE REFEREE SEES.

One clip though, the UNM player slapped the BYU player in the face but AGAIN THE BYU PLAYER CHARGED IN FIRST WITH A DIRTY CLIP!!! GET IT, FIRST!!!

The YOUTUBE video had BLIND announcer because they never mentioned the obvious left hand VAGINA WEGGIE. One inch to the right and it would have been rated X!

I DON’T GET IT, A UNM COACH WAS SUSPENDED FOR TEN DAYS FOR AN “OFF THE FIELDFIGHT AND WAS DOCKED $2900 PER DAY OR $29,000 AND THIS FOR HITTING A CO-WORKER AND THEN WE “SUSPEND INDEFINATELY” A PLAYER FOR “ON THE FIELDAGGRESSIVE PLAY AND STANDING UP FOR HERSELF FROM THE BYU BULLY WHO LAID THERE LIKE A LITTLE BABY. SHE’LL SURELY BE NOMINATED FOR AN OSCAR!
THE UNM PLAYER SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE ON THE GROUND CATCHING HER BREATH AND FOR EXTRACTING HER JOCK STRAP FROM HER VAGINA!!!

November 9 at 7:40 AM
by Dr. Kamilla W.

I played soccer since a young child in my native Brazil and no doubt that is incident is blown out of proportion. I also laughed at the UNM’s player grabbing the other’s hair but what caused the incident was the BYU player grabbing the trunks and underwear of the UNM player.

Grabbing of the crotch area, especially on a man, would have caused a fight that would have eventually emptied the stands resulting in a riot!

Elbows are very common! Knees are even more common! Aggressive diving is common! Pushing is common! Tripping is common! And believe it or not, hair pulling is also common. Yes, the UNM player pulled harder than normal but if I would have been grabbed in my crotch, I would have put her in a choke hold!!!

The BYU player went over the line too. The UNM player should have been given a one game suspicion which is common and that’s it.

Is her career over? The scouts will soon be knocking on her door! I’d hire her in a flash! She’s aggressive, stands up for herself, doesn’t get pushed around, a passion to win, and puts her heart into it! If you look closely at some other BYU and UNM players, there is alot of standing around, waiting, instead of on the prowl!!!

November 9 at 8:15 AM
by Mark

If such behavior has any common element to it then it should not. If a team is unable to win without their players acting like totals spoiled brats then they should lose. In this case they did and that is wonderful to see. I bet that these types of things are encouraged by the leadership of this team. She should be suspended and her coach fined. This would create a double incentive to see to it that this type of cheating is not allowed. This kind of behavior is malicious and when you watch closely it appears that this girl may need some extended counseling, anger management and issues resolution.

November 9 at 8:46 AM
by Lobos Fan

The real embarrassment at UNM is the football team. Put Elizabeth Lambert in charge of the gridiron program – she’s got more cojones than that whiny AD Paul Krebs.

November 9 at 8:48 AM
by Doug

You can look at every contact sport and you will see that more unacceptable violent behavior has been creeping into the play for many years. The time has come for the respective amateur sports governing boards at national and international levels to step up and clean up their respective sports. Officials need to call flagrant fouls as they are supposed to call them. Coaches need to pull players from games when players commit flagrant fouls that go uncalled by officials. Little can or will be done by professional sports governing bodies to help in this regard because blood on the field of play translates into bucks in the till. The professional stance is well documented wherein there is great outrage after an incident for a month or two and then it is back to violent play as usual until the next time a player is mugged on court and left with career ending injuries. So amateur sports organizations, who are you waiting for to clean up your sport? Why not now? If not now, then when? If not by you, then by who?

November 9 at 9:31 AM
by Matt_D

Thank you for writing this letter. I feel like if more people viewed all aspects of conflict this way we would much easily come to a resolution. I for one will support Lambert in moving past this incident. What’s done is done, now its time to move forward.

On a positive note, i am happy to see some responsibility and disciplinary actions taken as we most definitely cannot say the same for the football program.

November 9 at 10:05 AM
by Bill Alden

  • “Grabbing of the crotch area, especially on a man, would have caused a fight that would have eventually emptied the stands resulting in a riot! Elbows are very common! Knees are even more common! Aggressive diving is common! Pushing is common! Tripping is common! And believe it or not, hair pulling is also common. Yes, the UNM player pulled harder than normal but if I would have been grabbed in my crotch, I would have put her in a choke hold!!! The BYU player went over the line too.” **

The BYU player did not grab Lambert’s “crotch” – she grabbed a part of Lambert’s shorts; and the elbow to the rib cage looked rather mild.

Follow your own logic here, doctor – you call all of these things the BYU players did “common,” but then call them justification for the far worse retaliation by Miss Lambert. Que? Do you grasp the contradiction there, or do I need to spell it out further?

Which is it – “common,” or over the line? Common, I guess, if it’s the New Mexico player doing it, but over the line for the BYU player.

I have no idea why Lambert did what she did, and only hope it was some aspect of her behavior she can correct, and soon. As for now the spotlight on her behavior has given athletes everywhere further incentive NOT to behave like this, as if basic human decency weren’t incentive enough.

November 9 at 10:19 AM
by Lobo Fan

Thank you BYU student for yor forgiveness. While I don’t condone Elizabeth’s actions, I feel that the media scrutiny is ridiculous! She sincerely apologized. Let’s move on.

I can forgive her, she is a young student athlete that retaliated (although wrongly) in the heat of the battle.

What irks me, is she got thrown under the bus, while our 40 year old head coach got his wrists slaps for choking/punchling/slapping the receivers coach in a MEETING!

Elizabeth, I truly hope you are surrounded by good people and can move on. While this incident will shape you, don’t let it define you!

November 9 at 10:28 AM
by Head Devil

damn! why did she have to apologize? apologizing is a sign of weakness. I may just have to retract my offer of marriage to her. but, what a woman! I LOVE YOU ELIZABETH!

November 9 at 10:37 AM
by Mark

Lobo Fan,

If you believe that Elizabeth Lambert sincerely apologized, you are quite mistaken.

Ms. Lambert merely read spin prepared by Daniel Archuleta and/or Greg Remington in the Lobos’ women’s soccer public relations department.

That Ms. Lambert’s coach, Kit Vela, would call her a “quality student-athlete” only requires one to wonder how Coach Vela would define a “poor student-athlete.”

Perhaps a “poor student-athlete,” as per Coach Vela and the Spin Brothers Archuleta and Remington, would be a Lobo soccer player and biology major who belongs to al Qaeda in her spare time?

Perhaps a “poor student-athlete,” as per Coach Vela and the Spin Brothers Archuleta and Remington, would be a Lobo soccer player and business major who runs a Ponzi scheme in her spare time?

Perhaps a “poor student-athlete,” as per Coach Vela and the Spin Brothers Archuleta and Remington, would be a Lobo soccer player and art history major who robs convenience stores in her spare time?

Ms. Lambert’s inappropriate actions, whatever the reason and whatever the provocation, indicate not only poor sportsmanship and a complete lack of integrity and class, but they also reveal a shocking encouragement and entitlement on the parts of Coach Vela and the Spin Brothers Archuleta and Remington.

Justify it all you wish, but some things are always wrong.

November 9 at 10:51 AM
by Bill Alden

No, an Al Qaeda member would be celebrated as bringing diversity to the squad.

As for the guy wanting to marry her – don’t you worry that if you ever became a couple and had a fight that you might just wake up missing certain parts of your male anatomy?

November 9 at 11:16 AM
by The Nation

Your school is now the laughing stock of the nation.

No class.

November 9 at 11:21 AM
by Mark

Lambert was clearly wrong and should receive some sort of punishment. Retaliation is no excuse. However, she has apologized, profusely I might add, and has been reviled in the international media. At this point there is not much else she can say. Let’s give her a chance to prove that she is a “quality student/athlete.” If she can then we can move on.

November 9 at 11:21 AM
by Mark

To make the assertion that Lambert’s groin was being grabbed and that she pulled the BYU players hair in retaliation is the biggest bunch of crap I have ever read. I have watched the video over and over and there is no such thing as described above by the juvenile posters above. In basketball, soccer and other sports reaching back to find out where your opponent is and jockeying for position occurs all the time. If you think that what the idiots above inferred is true then you need glasses and to put down the crack pipe.

November 9 at 11:22 AM
by Laura

I have been an sports person my whole life. Playing every sport from baseball to basketball to hockey to football and soccer. these sports were played in leagues out side of school and also played with my cousin. I was a tomboy my whole life and played rough sports with my boy cousins. and never in my life would I expected to see a young women act the way she did. Our kids of today look up to these women as hero’s as they should. they don’t need to see them acting this way on the field. It’s setting a bad example for out younger generation. She was wrong in so many ways. I was very disappointed to see that.

November 9 at 11:44 AM
by Clarence Gaines

Elizabeth Lambert has been crucified by the media and many others. Her own school has suspended her from associating with her team. I agree that she should serve a game(s) suspension, but she should be allowed to work out with her teammates. Our society can go overboard in meting out punishment. Justice in our society used to be based on tempering justice with mercy. Now, it’s just all about meting out punishment.

How do you defend the indefensible. I don’t condone Lambert’s actions, but I will tell you that she is the type of athlete that I like to coach. Here’s the dirty little secret about top level athletes. They all have a mean streak. Some mask it better than others, but they all want to take your heart out. It’s my job as a coach to help an athlete like Elizabeth channel her passion and competitiveness in a more constructive manner.

I would also like to see the complete tape of the game, and not selected edits. Put the complete game tape online.

November 9 at 11:48 AM
by Missouri

What she deserves is to be prosecuted. It’s clear to anyone that watches that video that Ms. Lambert used force intending to inflict bodily injury.

November 9 at 11:57 AM
by Danny Torres

The BYU players deliberately and repeatedly fouled Elizabeth Lambert while smiling and smerking the whole time. Goaded by their actions, which the referees completely ignored, she lost her temper snd her better judgement. It is a shame that she is the only one punished for poor behavior when the BYU plsyers caused the whole thing, aided by the inexcusable refusal by the referees to disipline them for their poor sportsmanship the entire game.

November 9 at 12:08 PM
by Leo

I love soccer and consider myself a fan! I play the sport and know how it works. Understand this…She has been punished for her actions…MOVE ON! she has apologized, it doesnt matter if she meant it or not, if someone made her apologize or not. She has apologized, she has been punished and thats it!

Do you know who really should be punished as well? THE REFEREE! Miss Lambert should had been sent off and this incident would never had happened. Thats it.

And one last comment for the person who wrote this:
“In both cases, the BYU PLAYER STRUCK FIRST! GET IT, FIRST!!!”:
Clearly you do not follow soccer, and if you do, you just dont know much about it. This is NOT BASKETBALL, you will always see strong physical contact in any soccer match. I dont excuse Lambert’s actions since they were over the line, but come on!

November 9 at 12:09 PM
by Walt from CT

What is wrong with these kind of people that thinks this is the way to compete? She should be arrested and thrown off the team. She better not be getting any scholarship money.

November 9 at 12:13 PM
by Walt from CT

She SHOULD be crucified by the media – she is a goon. She can’t play so she has to resort to that. She is an embarrassment to her parents, her shcool and the sport. Heaven help whoever marries her… domestic abuse waiting to happen. Only Chris Brown could handle her

November 9 at 12:15 PM
by LadySiren

Are you KIDDING me?! As the mom of three young girls playing soccer, I personally feel that Elizabeth Lambert shouldn’t be forgiven, she should be banned. What is she teaching the next generation of soccer players? That it’s okay to hit back harder if you get hit first? That thuggery is excusable on the playing field? That losing one’s temper is okay unless you get caught on camera?

Her “apology” was less than sincere, IMO, and doesn’t make up for her on-field behavior. She said she was sorry, oh, how nice of her. She got a suspension, yay. It’s “indefinite” suspension, which IMO, means she’s suspended until the furor dies down enough that UNM can bring her back without seeming to endorse her unsportsmanlike, neo-criminal behavior.

I’m so glad my girls haven’t seen this clip (yet), it goes against every principle of good sportsmanship that we’ve tried to instill in them during their three years of soccer. Furthermore, Elizabeth’s parents and the refs should be forced to watch this clip every day as a reminder that they failed her.

November 9 at 12:18 PM
by Pauline

I’ve been involved as a coach on a high school level. My husband a ref. Because of health, I usually go to just watch now. It is so funny to watch parents as they see only what they want to see and know everything. This is just a game & they can go overboard so it does not surprise me that anger has increased on the field. Refs will not see everything, It is a contact sport but it is a refs responsiblity to control a game and a coaches responsility to control their players. In both the cases of the shorts grab/vs hair pull & elbow/vs elbow and which was first. What Lambert is doing with her right arm that we cannot see behind the back, just before the incidents. Not sure how it started but how she ended it is a problem.

November 9 at 12:24 PM
by Allen Y

Come on people, she is way too much for this. However the refe should be banned. He just need to red card her after first one or two, and that will stope the rest. After all, she may deserve ban from a few games, but not her sport life.

November 9 at 12:26 PM
by Paul Walker

What a GHETTO THUG. She should be PERMANANTLY BANNED, and arrested for assualt. I’ll bet she wouldn’t pull that crap in any county jail in America,,, what a video clip that would make watching someone beat the snot out of her!!!!!

November 9 at 12:32 PM
by Doug

You, Elizabeth, got that FIRE! I’ll have you right now! Holy shit you’re smoke! Keep kickin ass baby!

November 9 at 12:33 PM
by Alan A

What a witch…keep her off the field forever. PERMANANT BAN! That goes for the refs too!

November 9 at 12:39 PM
by Dilly Davidson

Unlike quotations, I don’t know how Lambert’s actions can be taken out of context. Her actions lack any defense no matter what the BYU team may or may not have done during the game. This is intercollegiate soccer, not WWE, MMA and etc. Tripping and kicking is an understood foul in the game of soccer. Punches and pulling someone down by their hair go beyond fouls and yellow/red cards. I think her actions should be taken more seriously than some of you have spoken to and I think she should be kicked off the team as other college athletes have dealt with in sports where even more contact and aggression is tolerated.

November 9 at 12:39 PM
by Devon S

Lady Siren: Every day? Seriously?

November 9 at 12:44 PM
by Doug

Walt…come on! You know you want to try and handle Elizabeth. The problem you would face is simply a beat down. Walt, you sir are the GOON. Sorry, is GOON reserved for CT? What’s your beef Walt? Did you get your ass kicked in high school? Please Walt…don’t try to steal her scholarship money! If she allows me to arrest her I’ll be sure and let you know. Keep it real Walt.

November 9 at 12:53 PM
by Doug

Alan, do you practice witchcraft? If so, I know a real maniac who needs his attitude adjusted. His name is Walt. Walt uses words like goon and Chris Brown. Tell me what you think.

November 9 at 1:00 PM
by Doug

Don’t worry Devon, Lady siren is a “goon”.

November 9 at 1:01 PM
by Mike

“This is in no way indicative of my character or the soccer player that I am…” I beg to differ. I played competitive soccer for 12 years in addition to other team sports and I NEVER saw something to that extreme. There is a reason that it has received such a response in the media. I realize you would have to watch the full match to get the entire story. I did notice the blond BYU player give Elizabeth the elbow to the stomach before Elizabeth punched her in the back, but several clips showed Elizabeth unprovokingly foul or downright attack the BYU players. If the BYU players would have committed those acts, the media would have been on that too.

As for top level athletes, I have played with top-level athletes and watched them go on to become nationally recognized players in the PAC 10. Those players did exhibit talent, (controlled) aggressiveness, and a competitiveness that set them apart from the other players who did not go further in their career, but never did I see them go on and pull that kind of $hit. What I have seen are really aggressive players who play extra rough and dirty and take cheap shots when they lack the true talent of the other players.

Elizabeth, I think it is VERY indicative of your character and your ability ability as a soccer player. Maybe you should try the UFC since you won’t be playing for UNM anytime soon.

November 9 at 1:01 PM
by Sad for UNM

She should be banned, period.

November 9 at 1:05 PM
by Kari

She does not deserve to ever play again. POOR SPORTSMANSHIP SHOULD BE ENDED QUICKLY AND PERMANENTLY – IF SHE HAD DONE IT ONCE MAYBE FORGIVENESS, BUT SHE JUST KEPT AT IT. FORGET YOU ELIZABETH.

November 9 at 1:08 PM
by Ann

She should be banned. Not just her but anyone who engages in unsportsmanlike conduct should be banned. Perhaps if that was the rule, incidents like this would not happen. Yes, Ms. Lambert it this is indicative of your character.

November 9 at 1:08 PM
by Robert

Thank you for a very well thought out letter. This whole incident reminds me of something similar that happened to my son who plays Lacrosse. My son, deservedly so had a reputation of being a very physical player and was the penalty leader for our team. The players on other teams, knowing about his reputation would double and sometimes triple team him with the goal of making him lose his temper and going off. One such game, he was being double teamed and it got extremely physical. So bad that a parent from the other team apologized to me. I thanked them for the apology, explaining it was unnecessary and that my son gave as well as he could take. During the 4th quarter, he had had enough after being slashed and hit the other player. My son was ejected and the player who slashed him was given a 3 minuet non-releasable penalty. The purpose of my story is what happened after the game when the umpire came up to my son and I. He explained he saw what was happening but was left with no choice but to eject my son. Telling him that in sports like life, when you go after revenge, no matter what the reason you will always be wrong and lose in the end. This young lady, like my son, may have had the best reason for wanting to get even, but her actions cost her dearly.

November 9 at 1:19 PM
by Observer

I saw three times during the BYU-NewMexico game that Ms. Lambert resorted to violence. Regardless that someone poked her in the chest or grabs the front of her shorts, Ms. Lambert choose to reply with a violent reaction. This is a pattern. And this pattern probably was not isolated to the BYU game. No I think Ms. Lambert and NMU should reflect the pattern Ms. Lambert actions seriously!

November 9 at 1:24 PM
by Doug

Mark you are a DB! Did you really make those comparisons? I would love to teach you a few lessons on the soccer field. Guess what people…soccer is rough as hell get over it or go home. To all of those above who say that Eli has no skills…you have never played! Watch the clips, slide tackles, and overall D. That girl has some go and that can not be trained. You either have it or you don’t. If one is not aggressive and gets in the way…players like Eli eat them. It’s been going on for years. Oh my daughter was treated unfairly, my daughter is too slow, my daughter needs more attention, let my daughter play and talk to the coach honey…etc. Gentleman’s soccer is the same and rougher still. Give it up the girl was working and everyone on the clip was rough and loved it!

November 9 at 1:36 PM
by Doug

Kari, It seems like you are yelling. Are you yelling? Hey, it’s o.k…. everyone is just talking. Really, calm down. CALM DOWN KARI. NO! FORGET YOU! STOP PULLING MY HAIRRRR! See how things get out of hand people. Kari is obviously a lunatic. Someone throw some water on her. I’m sure she keeps her hands to herself! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

November 9 at 1:39 PM
by Big E

My initial reaction upon seeing the ESPN video and commentary was that she showed extreme unsportsmanlike conduct and was deserving of an appropriate punishment. After watching the video multiple times and reading the many related posts, I have arrived at the following conclusion. Her behavior was unsportsmanlike and she deserves at least a 1 game suspension from the school. She should also have to face her teammates and be subject to a team punishment that could be private to the team or external (ex. benched for the next game(s)).

It is also clear that the video does not tell the whole story and the fact the she did not receive any other penalties during the game would indicate that her play wasn’t as extreme as is being portrayed.

Some posters have dismissed the “vagina wedgie” that led to the hair pulling incident. The point her isn’t that she was grabbed directly in this area but that the opponent grabbed her shorts and pulled them up in such a way that Elizabeth certainly felt it and responded accordingly albeit not appropriately.

Her behavior deserves punishment, but she does not deserve to be suspended indefinitely.

November 9 at 1:47 PM
by Ray

This is just like the Mike Tyson ear biting affair- the actions were performed under the stress of competition against the competitor. The actions are inexcusable. Under no conditions should the school allow her to compete again. The overall collegiate athletic sanctioning body should like wise condemn the deliberate violence and support the schools sanctions.

Simply unacceptable in a society that respects both the spirit and value of athletic competitions.

November 9 at 2:11 PM
by Doug

Obviously not the Ray that slept with Kim K. Elizabeth should be stationed on Pennsylvania Ave. She has mad skills! Obama needs an aggressive bad ass protecting our interests. Hell, Eli for president?

November 9 at 2:17 PM
by KRYX

Anyone who has played sports knows Elizabeth or someone of her ilk. When the talent isn’t enough, arrogance justifies thuggery. Is the incident indicative of character? ABSOLUTELY!

Her apology sounds like she was shocked at what she’d done. This was a first? Oh, please! Athletes know that only ~33% of fouls are called. She finally got exposed red-handed.

Is she Lobo worthy? Expulsion.

A wider question is what kind of program tolerates (encourages?)gangster type mentality. This is not FSU!!

November 9 at 2:20 PM
by Doug

Fortunately, it is time for me to leave all this hard work and go home! Most of you are nemrods. I will continue to support the newest love of my life. Elizabeth makes all other women look inferior. She is a storm, isn’t she!

November 9 at 2:30 PM
by sarah h

dude this girl is crazy… she needs anger management

November 9 at 2:59 PM
by Danny

This is unacceptable she needs to give a public apology to the players, coaches and New Mexico in general. The coach should also be reprimanded for allowing her to continue the game. The excuse that she was ‘unaware’ the incident happened is BS. This was a HUGE physical altercation and the player even stayed on the ground for several seconds. Unacceptable. Some forms of altercation occur DURING game play but when a player “intentionally” and with full control of their hands reaches out and grabs, clutches their fist, or draws their arm/leg with intend of retaliation with physical pain is ‘willfully intending to harm’. When an athlete wears a NEW MEXICO jersey they represent New Mexico regardless of how they feel or approve of it. You are officially a represenative of our state and they reflect on the rest of the citizens of NM! If she persist to be violent join a sport that needs, requires and mandates violence such as wrestling or boxing or some such nonsense (opps baseball too!) Grin

November 9 at 3:02 PM
by BYU didn't foul first?

I just saw the youtube and on three different posts and all showed that the BYU players provoked a response. Lambert reacted after she was elbowed and after her crotch area was grabbed.

It also looked, as I stopped the video numerous times, that Lambert could have been scratched with the BYU players fingernails as she lifted the shorts showing Lambert’s white underwear.

The BYU player also dove into her again and if you notice closely, Lambert’s leg, or knee, could have broken due to the BYU clip. This obviously hurt Lambert so she struck the BYU player in the face.

The BYU players are totally at fault for their dirty play. Lambert reacted like all of us would to that dirty play.

The UNM soccer coaches need some neutral observers to go over the youtube videos so they can show them the provoking of Lambert with dirty and hurtful play.

If they still don’t agree with my argument, I will volunteer to ELBOW a coach in the chest, grab their crotch area, and trip them up contorting their feet! I’m sure the coach will speed dial Coach Lockley!

November 9 at 3:05 PM
by Steve

Is she sorry she did it or sorry she got caught? I can see responding in the moment, but this went on through the game. Anyone have any film of her past performances . . . I would be willing to bet this is not a first. Elizabeth is on her way to being the next Tonya Harding.

November 9 at 3:18 PM
by Pro

Im with one of the top three teams in the world.

On a professional level I agree with Danny this would not be tolerated on a professional field. She would have been fined and possibly fired. The sadder point of the game was, sure the other players were on her here and there.

Unfortunately you do not attack another player from behind with their back turned.

In our profession it is a cowards move. She did it 3 times.

Its a shame that a potentially great team has the one bad apple that made National news.

Too the other players, well done nice foot work, great team cohesiveness, remover her from the game and you may have a better chance of some great victories.

That kind of negativity effects the entire team, from here on out your team will be scrutinized every game and every play for the next season and maybe 4 seasons out. Be careful practice restraint, clam and have fun.

Pro

November 9 at 6:22 PM
by To Pro

WHAT TEAM DO YOU PLAY FOR? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HOW YOUPRACTICE RESTRAINT, CLAM,(CALM?) AND HAVE FUN!” YOU ARE A FAKE SINCE I REALLY DOUBT YOU’D HAVE THE BRAINS TO EVEN FIND THE DAILY LOBO WEBSITE!!!

PRO WROTE: “Unfortunately you do not attack another player from behind with their back turned.” THE BYU PLAYER ATTACKED BLINDLY TO THE UNM PLAYER. THE UNM PLAYER KNEW WHO SHE WAS RETALIATING AGAINST! WHICH CAME FIRST: THE BYU ELBOW OR THE UNM SOCK ON THE BACK?

CAN A PRO PLAYER GRAB THE OTHER PLAYERS CROTCH AREA AND IF THAT HAPPENED, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? WHICH CAME FIRST: THE BYU CROTCH GRAB OR THE UNM HAIR PULL?

AGAIN, WHAT TEAM DO YOU PLAY FOR? PROVE IT TOO!

November 9 at 8:06 PM
by Alan
Elizabeth Lambert… What you do on the field is a reflection of your actions off the field. I’m surprised you’re not in jail for street crimes. These actions on the field simply show your inability to play the game of soccer fairly and further, it also shows a lack of an education. It appears that the only way you can face your appoint is from behind. (Only animals attack from behind). You were lucky that the school you were competing against was BYU; they know how to turn the other cheek. Maybe the best in life for you is to educate yourself on, self-control. You should at least be suspended indefinitely.
November 10 at 1:45 AM
by Quiet in the Storm Center

Thank you Rob.
Amongst the rabid crowd howling for blood (what irony…) and the juvenile screams of off with her head, your letter is one of the only ones worth reading.

November 10 at 6:51 AM
by Joe

I agree with the poster above who implied Elizabeth was targeted. Was this video from the telecast of the game. Interesting how it happened to follow the two BYU players as they positioned themselves by Elizabeth. The BYU players did provoke in my opinion and also deserve to be punished. Interesting that only UNM took responsibility and BYU took none. I agree that there is punishment for Elizabeth but it should not be indefinite. Her reaction could have caused serious injury. But the BYU players need to be accountable as well. I’m not saying that the reaction from Elizabeth is ok but I’m not sure how I would respond if someone pulled my shorts up my crotch. Hopefully, Elizabeth learned a lesson that I hope will make her better. What lesson did the provocing BYU players learn – hey, this works; let’s do it again!

November 10 at 8:58 AM
by AA

Nation wrote,
“Your school is now the laughing stock of the nation.”

More like our Assletic dept. is the laughing stock, which is not news at all. It has a long and rich history of cheating, coruption, cover-up and denial. None of which have been a secret. Take notes if you can’t keep up, Nation.

Good For YOUNM!

November 10 at 10:30 AM
by Pete

Just my rantings but I agree with the those who say that the BYU players started all this, they just weren’t caught. This is a tactic employed in many sports – funny, but good “Christian” schools seem to be masters of winning these kind of contests of provoking. My wife and I both played mulitiple sports in school and agree in our observation that contests with these schools were some of the dirtiest we engaged in. Coincidence that we’d have this same observation growing up in different places? The BYU player is not laying on the ground crying but laughing knowing she got the better of the UNM player and “won”. In regards to Elizabeth and all you who want her banned and kicked out of school, ask yourself, “WWJD?” Yeah, he’d kick her out of school and bannish her for life, that’s the kind of guy he was. Punish her and get on with it. The game becomes highly emotional for the players. If a player is losing control Officials and coaches need to exercize control of the game and players on the field before it escalates to this level.

November 10 at 2:33 PM
by Coach

This pretty much sums it up accurately:

www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/10/crimesider/entry5601480.shtml

November 10 at 8:04 PM
by Andres Saenz(UNM Alumnus)

Sympathy for Elizabeth Lambert? Absolutely not!

I have Christian morals too…however, even though I believe in forgiveness I also believe in JUSTICE. I believe in holding people accountable and responsible for their own actions. The book of Romans repeatedly warns people that they should submit to their authorities, because rebelling against them is just like rebelling against God. “The authorities that exist have been established by God”, it says.

Having said all this, I think that Lambert should be punished severely for her actions…she has tarnished not only the reputation of UNM Athletics but that of this entire university. And the whole world is watching…there’s a YouTube video of Lambert’s violent gestures towards 2 BYU players that has more than 1.2 MILLION views. It clearly shows her hitting one of them in the back for no apparent reason, and then yanking another one to the ground by pulling on her hair. And I’m supposed to feel sympathy for this monster?? Heck no!

November 10 at 10:07 PM
by Steve McCord

I am sorry but Ms. Lamberts actions are totally inexcusable. If you take the altercation where Ms. Lambert pulled the BYU player down by the hair and go through it frame by frame you will see that prior to Ms Lambert having her shorts tugged on by the BYU player Ms Lambert already had ahold of the BYU players hair. In addition, her actions throughout the entire game were not of a player who was over reacting to a situation, but that of a player who was out to injure. I understand that even the best players have days where they allow their emotions to rule their head in an instance and make a rash decision, like Zidane during the world cup, but Ms. Lambert was systematically playing the entire match to injure.

On a a deeper issue, I am horrified that the 4 game officials and the New Mexico coach allowed this to take place. The NCAA should review tapes of this game and hold the officials accountable for their lack of professionalism. In addition I would question how a Division I coach was unaware of her players behavior throughout the entire match and allowed her to continue playing after a few altercations. The coach’s poor judgement of keeping this player on the field has created a firestorm of negative press to their woman’s sports program and university.

November 11 at 4:42 PM
by Montana

Elizabeth Lambert is a junior at the University of New Mexico, and plays for their soccer team the Lobos originally from California (too bad for California). So, this loser knows they are going in to a game that they will most likely lose and since they do not have the talent to score they resort to this kind of play, it has very minor thought to it than let’s say passisng the ball through your opponents defense and scoring a goal.

The other issue is the where were the referees, were they all older white men with their tongues out, enamored and unable to call the game objectively (this game had so many penalties that did not get called), I mean what are they getting paid to do. Who has paid these guys off? Do we have to change the game where only women referees can call women games. After watching the video someone was paid off, that is my conclusion.

And Lizzy, watch you back and please stay out of soccer (you real should be banned, the game does not need people like you in it), so many will be gunning for you now. Who knows maybe you were just drumming up business for your “Occupational Therapy practice”, yah good luck with that, I doubt your bed side manner is any different from your sportsmanship.


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