New Mexico Daily Lobo
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Current Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:17:56 -0700
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UNM's Islam classes teach non-Muslims fear, hatred
Editor,
As a Religious Studies major who happens to be Muslim, I recently signed up for classes related to my religion of choice: Islam. I thought that taking these classes would increase my knowledge of the religion and give me a much-needed break from the lies and propaganda that I see on the news. Man, was I wrong. Not only did my teachers not know about the true teachings of Islam, they acted like cheerleaders for the so-called War on Terror. I had one professor compare the Prophet Muhammad to Adolf Hitler. Then a couple of days after that, another professor told a class of scared Christians that Islam teaches terrorism. And so here I am in the middle of another semester listening to the same lies. I sometimes find myself asking, “Did my professors of Islam study the religion at the University of Guantanamo Bay or Abu Ghraib?” The only knowledge about Islam that is being passed on to non-Muslim students is fear and hatred. Maybe one day common sense will prevail and UNM will hire Muslims to teach classes about Islam.
Muhajir Salam
UNM student



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russellmurr
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Yeah there are lot of jobs in medical transcription find your school to get a degree in few months at http://bit.ly/5V4v8
WHAT A LIE!!!
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Is this the “Muhajir Salam” newspaper or UNM Daily Lobo that took a poll on FOX NEWS AND THEIR BIASED??? WHO WAS THE OTHER WRITER FROM THE PAST THREE YEARS THAT HAD A WEEKLY LETTER PRINTED AND ALL AGAINST EVERY U.S. INTEREST?
WHERE IS THE PROOF SALAM? DID YOU RECORD THE PROFESSORS WHICH SURELY WOULD HAVE BEEN REPORTED ON FOX AND I’M SURE YOU WOULD HAVE MADE THE MEDIA CIRCUS MERRY-GO-ROUND?
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WHICH PROFESSORS TAUGHT THIS AND DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER STUDENTS TO VERIFY?
PROVE YOU WERE IN THE CLASS BY TELLING US YOUR GRADE AND DID THE PROFESSOR LOWER YOUR GRADE?
I DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU! PROVE IT! NAME THE PROFESSORS!
Did DL VERIFY allegations?
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Many of my letters haven’t been printed due to “unverifiable,” “too controversial,” “off topic,” “issue passed,” ETC… and there are students who never get theirs printed. HOW MANY HAS SALAM HAD THIS SEMESTER?
DID THE LOBO EDITOR VERIFY THAT PROFESSORS ARE STATING OPINIONS THAT COULD BE SEEN AS A BIASED AND MAKES STUDENTS FEEL UNEASY? IF THE EDITOR DID, WILL THEY INVESTIGATE OTHER PROFESSORS WHO SPEAK OF POLITICS IN A MATH CLASS?
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USUALLY PROFESSORS ARE LEFTISTS/MARXISTS/COMMUNISTS AND USE THEIR CLASSROOM FOR ANTI-BUSH/AMERICA/HATE AMERICA/LOVE CHE AND FIDEL DIATRIBES BUT WE HAVE SOME WHO LIKE THE “WAR ON TERROR” AND SLAM ISLAM? %$&))&&$*^(#&() OOPS I JUST FAINTED!
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT UNM, AND ALMOST EVERY UNIVERSITY, IS ALMOST 100% TAKEN OVER BY LEFTISTS WHO OPENLY REVEAL THEIR POLITICAL OPINIONS AND WHO LOWER GRADES OF THOSE “CHRISTIANS” “NEOCONS” “REPUBLICANS” AND “OBAMA HATERS!”
SO, TO ALL NON-LEFTIST STUDENTS: RECORD YOUR PROFESSOR AND THEN WRITE A LETTER TO THE EDITOR AND SEE IF IT GETS PRINTED. THEY SHOULD BE WRITING A FRONTPAGE ARTICLE ON IT BUT HELL WILL FREEZE OVER BEFORE THAT HAPPENS!
No Madrassas in Abq?
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What do Madrassas teach?
Many teach anti-American hatred and to “kill infidels” and they are free to live here in America? It seems like they would move to a Muslim country like Saudi Arabia where women who are raped are stoned and hung while the rapists go free.
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Now we have an article and poll today on a Saudi couple who just spoke of sex and they are getting up to 1000 lashes and imprisoned! WHAT RELIGION ALLOWS THAT?
HOW DOES SALAM TREAT HIS WOMEN OR IS HE PLANNING TO SEE 72 VIRGINS?
WHAT RELIGION USES HONOR KILLINGS? DOES SALAM BELIEVE IN HONOR KILLINGS TOO? DID THEY TEACH THAT IN HIS ISLAM CLASSES?
DID THEY TEACH ISLAM’S USE OF VAGINA MUTILATION WHERE WOMEN’S CLITORIS’S ARE CUT OFF SO THEY HAVE NO PLEASURE DURING SEX? IF A PROFESSOR DID TEACH THAT, IS THAT A LIE OR PROPAGANDA?
I SUGGEST SALAM DROP HIS CLASS AND LEARN “THE PEACEFUL ISLAM” FROM A MADRASSA!!!
Sam Duro
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Which classes? Which departments? Which instructors? I’m looking for good classes on Islam, and the one I’ve had so far gave rather short (nonexistent) attention to the violent and oppressive nature of Islam, though it was otherwise informative and enjoyable. There were, however, more than a few Muslim students in that class who still didn’t like hearing anything other than strictly orthodox interpretations on Muhammad and early Islam and weren’t shy about saying so during the small group discussions.
Phyllis Chesler
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We are entering an all-spin zone, a wild, weird and spooky season and I am not talking about Halloween.
With a few exceptions, the mainstream media continue to kill stories about honor killings and attempted honor killings in North America. How often did you read stories about the honor killings that took place in Toronto (07), Dallas (08), Atlanta (08), Oak Forest, Illinois (08), Alexandria (08), Buffalo (09), and Kingston, Canada (09)—on and on, until the most recent attempted honor killing in Phoenix?
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There are two killers still on the loose: Yaser Said, the Dallas monster out of Egypt who abused, stalked, and murdered his two daughters with the help of his wife, their mother, and his son, their brother.
Iraqi-born Faleh Hassan Almaleki is another foul killer on the lam. Just last week, he ran over his 20-year-old daughter, Noor, with a car because she was “too western.” Imagine: This father used two tons of steel rage against his daughter. He mowed her down with a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Faleh also tried to kill the older woman who was with her, Amal Edan Khalef, with whom Noor was living. Amal had probably rescued Noor, but she was also the mother of Noor’s boyfriend. Both women are now in the hospital; Noor remains unconscious and is barely clinging to life.
At issue: Apparently, Noor had been fighting with her father for years. She did not want to remain in her arranged marriage and indeed, left the Middle East and dared to choose a boyfriend of her own. Yes, like the Said sisters, Noor also had pages on Facebook and at MySpace too. Noor knew she was living in the United States and not in the Middle East. Apparently, her father did not accept this as reality.
With the exception of brief, one-time reportage, (USA Today, AP, ABC News, etc.) the mainstream national media has not really covered this story. Only True Crime Reports has updated it. When it comes to Islam and honor killings, political, anthropological, historical, and psychological information is rarely brought to bear on the single story. Suddenly, completely out of context, one lone individual or one lone family just up and murders their daughter or their sister. No rhyme or reason to it. Case closed.
The local Arizona media have certainly covered this attempted honor killing and they’ve quoted experts who’ve said things as strange as the local Dallas media experts did in the Said case (It was not an honor killing, honor killings have nothing to do with Islam or with Muslims); as strange as the Florida media experts did in the case of Rifqa Bary, the teenage apostate runaway whom a Florida judge has just sent back to Ohio (She is an unbalanced, rebellious teenager who only imagines that she has been abused; she is in no danger at all).
Although the Bary case was decided narrowly, as a strictly jurisdictional decision, the local Florida media downplayed the danger that former Muslims face when they leave Islam–and the specific danger that young immigrant, often Muslim daughters face when they refuse to obey cultural and religious expectations. Hopefully, the Ohio judge will keep all this in mind.
And by the way: In custody cases (and Bary’s case is just that), judges have the discretion to listen to the wishes of minor children as young as 12. Bary is 17 years old–certainly old enough to know where danger lies.
Now back to the 4000-pound raging Iraqi father.
The Arizona Republic quotes Tom Keil, a professor at Arizona State University who said that honor killings exist “deep in the isolated hills of Appalachian Kentucky… (and is) prevalent in clannish societies.”
With all due respect to the scholar of Appalachia, I have just completed a study of honor killings on five continents that will be published in Middle East Quarterly. Although some Sikhs and Hindus do commit honor murders, it is primarily a Muslim-on-Muslim crime. Trust me on this.
But I’m going up against the most incredibly smooth and seamless spin, one that is constant, omnipresent. Really big.
Allow me to suggest that the White House is clearly engaged in micro-managing the news, especially when it pertains to political appointees, many of whom have come under attack.
For example: A network (which shall remain nameless) approached me for a comment on a story they were doing about President Obama’s Islamic faith advisor, Dalia Mogahed. Let’s say that the subject concerned Shari’a law, Muslim women, and gender justice. But before the network could publish their story, (which challenged some of Mogahed’s views and acts), guess what? A major and exclusive interview with Mogahed suddenly appeared in the pages of US News and World Report. The interview allowed Mogahed to backtrack, explain, put a slightly different spin on what she’d previously said about Muslim women’s view of Shari’a law as
the very vehicle which provides gender justice. I suppose if one is a religious Muslim woman and believes that Shari’a law is divine law, the conclusion that it does or should provide gender justice makes divine sense.
I mean minutes, perhaps no more than an hour, before the first story was slated to appear–this exclusive scooped the criticism. That first story is now cancelled.
And oh yes: Here’s what Jordanian journalist, Rania Husseini, recently said on Amy Goodman’s program Democracy Now about honor killings in Jordan. According to my source, Martin Rosenthal, “Husseini claimed that honor killings have nothing to do with any particular religion.” He sent me a small excerpt of what Ms. Husseini said in the interview:
“So it’s [honor killings are] really not restricted to any religion. I have covered cases of Christian women who were killed in Jordan for tarnishing their families’ honor, same in other parts of the Middle East. So really it has nothing to do with any religion. I think it’s mostly a tribal—I’m sorry, it’s a traditional practice more than a religious. For example, in India, Sikh families kill their daughters. In Iraq, a woman from a Yazidi faith was stoned to death recently. So, really, it has nothing to do with any religion, as much as it has to do with peoples’ wrongful cultural and traditional beliefs.”
It is never, ever Islam and when Muslims do something truly ghastly (like mow down their own daughter with a 4000 pound car or fly planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon) it is always someone else’s fault: The Zionists, the Americans, the Western colonialists, the daughter herself who, after all, forced her father into having to defend his obviously non-existent honor.
Phyllis Chesler
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We are entering an all-spin zone, a wild, weird and spooky season and I am not talking about Halloween.
With a few exceptions, the mainstream media continue to kill stories about honor killings and attempted honor killings in North America. How often did you read stories about the honor killings that took place in Toronto (07), Dallas (08), Atlanta (08), Oak Forest, Illinois (08), Alexandria (08), Buffalo (09), and Kingston, Canada (09)—on and on, until the most recent attempted honor killing in Phoenix?
Read more
There are two killers still on the loose: Yaser Said, the Dallas monster out of Egypt who abused, stalked, and murdered his two daughters with the help of his wife, their mother, and his son, their brother.
Iraqi-born Faleh Hassan Almaleki is another foul killer on the lam. Just last week, he ran over his 20-year-old daughter, Noor, with a car because she was “too western.” Imagine: This father used two tons of steel rage against his daughter. He mowed her down with a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Faleh also tried to kill the older woman who was with her, Amal Edan Khalef, with whom Noor was living. Amal had probably rescued Noor, but she was also the mother of Noor’s boyfriend. Both women are now in the hospital; Noor remains unconscious and is barely clinging to life.
At issue: Apparently, Noor had been fighting with her father for years. She did not want to remain in her arranged marriage and indeed, left the Middle East and dared to choose a boyfriend of her own. Yes, like the Said sisters, Noor also had pages on Facebook and at MySpace too. Noor knew she was living in the United States and not in the Middle East. Apparently, her father did not accept this as reality.
With the exception of brief, one-time reportage, (USA Today, AP, ABC News, etc.) the mainstream national media has not really covered this story. Only True Crime Reports has updated it. When it comes to Islam and honor killings, political, anthropological, historical, and psychological information is rarely brought to bear on the single story. Suddenly, completely out of context, one lone individual or one lone family just up and murders their daughter or their sister. No rhyme or reason to it. Case closed.
The local Arizona media have certainly covered this attempted honor killing and they’ve quoted experts who’ve said things as strange as the local Dallas media experts did in the Said case (It was not an honor killing, honor killings have nothing to do with Islam or with Muslims); as strange as the Florida media experts did in the case of Rifqa Bary, the teenage apostate runaway whom a Florida judge has just sent back to Ohio (She is an unbalanced, rebellious teenager who only imagines that she has been abused; she is in no danger at all).
Although the Bary case was decided narrowly, as a strictly jurisdictional decision, the local Florida media downplayed the danger that former Muslims face when they leave Islam–and the specific danger that young immigrant, often Muslim daughters face when they refuse to obey cultural and religious expectations. Hopefully, the Ohio judge will keep all this in mind.
And by the way: In custody cases (and Bary’s case is just that), judges have the discretion to listen to the wishes of minor children as young as 12. Bary is 17 years old–certainly old enough to know where danger lies.
Now back to the 4000-pound raging Iraqi father.
The Arizona Republic quotes Tom Keil, a professor at Arizona State University who said that honor killings exist “deep in the isolated hills of Appalachian Kentucky… (and is) prevalent in clannish societies.”
With all due respect to the scholar of Appalachia, I have just completed a study of honor killings on five continents that will be published in Middle East Quarterly. Although some Sikhs and Hindus do commit honor murders, it is primarily a Muslim-on-Muslim crime. Trust me on this.
But I’m going up against the most incredibly smooth and seamless spin, one that is constant, omnipresent. Really big.
Allow me to suggest that the White House is clearly engaged in micro-managing the news, especially when it pertains to political appointees, many of whom have come under attack.
For example: A network (which shall remain nameless) approached me for a comment on a story they were doing about President Obama’s Islamic faith advisor, Dalia Mogahed. Let’s say that the subject concerned Shari’a law, Muslim women, and gender justice. But before the network could publish their story, (which challenged some of Mogahed’s views and acts), guess what? A major and exclusive interview with Mogahed suddenly appeared in the pages of US News and World Report. The interview allowed Mogahed to backtrack, explain, put a slightly different spin on what she’d previously said about Muslim women’s view of Shari’a law as
the very vehicle which provides gender justice. I suppose if one is a religious Muslim woman and believes that Shari’a law is divine law, the conclusion that it does or should provide gender justice makes divine sense.
I mean minutes, perhaps no more than an hour, before the first story was slated to appear–this exclusive scooped the criticism. That first story is now cancelled.
And oh yes: Here’s what Jordanian journalist, Rania Husseini, recently said on Amy Goodman’s program Democracy Now about honor killings in Jordan. According to my source, Martin Rosenthal, “Husseini claimed that honor killings have nothing to do with any particular religion.” He sent me a small excerpt of what Ms. Husseini said in the interview:
“So it’s [honor killings are] really not restricted to any religion. I have covered cases of Christian women who were killed in Jordan for tarnishing their families’ honor, same in other parts of the Middle East. So really it has nothing to do with any religion. I think it’s mostly a tribal—I’m sorry, it’s a traditional practice more than a religious. For example, in India, Sikh families kill their daughters. In Iraq, a woman from a Yazidi faith was stoned to death recently. So, really, it has nothing to do with any religion, as much as it has to do with peoples’ wrongful cultural and traditional beliefs.”
It is never, ever Islam and when Muslims do something truly ghastly (like mow down their own daughter with a 4000 pound car or fly planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon) it is always someone else’s fault: The Zionists, the Americans, the Western colonialists, the daughter herself who, after all, forced her father into having to defend his obviously non-existent honor.
Rusty Shackleford
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By all accounts, Tarek Mehanna seems an unlikely aspiring terrorist. He grew up in the Boston suburb of Sudbury, went to private schools, and, following in his father’s footsteps, earned a Ph.D. in pharmacology. Given all the advantages of wealth, education, and freedom afforded in America, Tarek Mehanna had a bright future.
But a federal complaint against Mehanna describes aspirations of killing former President George W. Bush, mowing down shoppers with automatic weapons at a mall, and failed efforts at joining the ranks of terrorists abroad.
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A former religious teacher described him as a “fun-loving, ordinary, typical American kid.” Mehanna would bring comics to class and was a big fan of Superman. A friend laughed at the notion that Mehanna could ever be a terrorist. At his court appearance on Wednesday, Mehanna’s father claimed that the charges against his son were “a show.”
An online acquaintance of Mehanna argued with me, saying that the charges had no merit. Mehanna, he claimed, was a “moderate” Muslim who had always argued against the killing of innocents. His arrest, his acquaintance told me, was evidence that Muslims in America are guilty until proven innocent — inferring that Mehanna’s arrest was just another in a larger, anti-Muslim conspiracy.
The shock of Mehanna’s friends and family is typical. Those acquainted with terrorists often insist that the accused was shy, polite, helpful, or empathetic. It juxtaposes with our natural inclination to want to believe that people aspiring to evil deeds should somehow manifest the true nature of their characters in their day-to-day behavior. That such people aren’t typically raving lunatics, overtly sociopathic, or belligerent fanatics doesn’t dawn on most. It makes us feel safer to assume that a potential terrorist will give us some sort of warning sign.
But in Mehanna’s case there were warning signs. If his friends’ shock is real, then Tarek Mehanna was living a compartmentalized and double life. For the Tarek Mehanna I knew online was not the “moderate” that his apologists portray him as. He was a fanatical Islamist, devoted to the same ideas as al-Qaeda. He spent countless hours translating Arabic texts into English in order to inspire others to become violent jihadists.
Mehanna went by the handle “Abu Sayaba” online. In addition to frequently commenting at radical forums and online discussion groups, “Abu Sayaba” also ran his own blog. His Iskandari blog posted translations of Arabic texts. Typical of the writings he posted were calls for the establishment of an Islamic state and Islamic law. He also encouraged violent jihad as a means of attaining these two goals.
Tarek Mehanna may seem to have been an unlikely terrorist candidate to some, but given his online support for violent jihad revealed through his “Abu Sayaba” persona, should it really come as a surprise that he would aspire to become a violent jihadist himself?
Online, Mehanna reveals that the arrest of Aafia Siddiqui — a woman married to Khalid Sheik Mohammed’s nephew — caused him so much anger that he felt obligated to make the trip to New York City to attend one of her hearings.
Ironically, Mehanna went to her hearing because he claimed to believe that she was innocent — a victim of the perceived vast conspiracy against Muslims. She must be innocent, he claimed, because those who knew her described her as a “very small, quiet, polite, and shy woman.”
If Mehanna’s online activities as “Abu Sayaba” were unknown to friends and family — and therefore an excuse for their ignorance about his extremism — then unless he was living a very compartmentalized life, it is difficult to see how his real-world activities wouldn’t raise alarms.
Among the unsavory characters in Mehanna’s clique is another homegrown jihad aspirant, Daniel Maldonado. Maldonado, who changed his name to “Al-Jughaifi” upon his conversion to Islam, is serving a 10-year sentence in a federal penitentiary. Like Mehanna, Maldonado also had an active online life. He worked at an Islamic forum giving advice to young people. Some of them followed that advice and are now serving prison sentences here in the U.S. and Canada.
It was this connection to Maldonado that first brought Mehanna to the attention of federal agents. Maldonado traveled to Somalia, where he received weapons training from al-Qaeda operatives. While there, he called his friend Mehanna and encouraged him to come and join the cause.
When questioned by the FBI about the call, Mehanna denied knowing his friend was in Somalia and claimed that he thought he was in Egypt. It was this lie to the FBI that led to his first arrest last year. It now appears that the underlying reason for the arrest was to prevent Mehanna from leaving the country as he was about to depart for Saudi Arabia.
The details in this week’s federal complaint against Mehanna reveal why authorities would use the rather minor charge of lying to the FBI to keep him from leaving. In 2004, Mehanna and an accomplice traveled to Yemen to “find a terrorist training camp to learn how to conduct, and to subsequently engage in, jihad,” with the hope that they would fight against their own countrymen: U.S. soldiers in Iraq. Ultimately, they were unsuccessful. They found the training camps they were looking for closed and their intended contacts either away on a religious pilgrimage or already in jail.
Mehanna’s accomplice, named as Ahmad Abousamra, continued to seek the life of a jihadist. In Iraq, insurgents turned him down because they didn’t trust him as an American. In Pakistan, two different jihadist groups turned him down because he was an Arab. After being questioned about these trips by federal authorities, Abousamra fled the U.S.; he is now believed to be living in Syria.
In addition to Daniel Maldonado and Ahmad Abousamra, the federal complaint also claims that at least two other unnamed individuals plotted with Mehanna. The group frequently sat around discussing various acts of violence and justifications for killing civilians. They also watched propaganda videos. Many of these discussions might be chalked up to the world of fantasy, but on at least one occasion a group representative was sent to visit Maldonado in an attempt to acquire automatic weapons.
So who is the real Tarek Mehanna? Is he the typical American kid described by some friends and family as incapable of being a terrorist? Or is he the supporter of violent jihad as seen in his publicly available online writings and described in the federal complaint against him?
Those who believe that there must be some mutual exclusivity between acting in a typically American fashion and supporting terrorism have built a glass house of perception on which they hang their hopes of safety at their own peril. Mehanna is both typically American and a supporter of terror.
That is to say, there is no inherent contradiction in aspiring terrorists being outwardly typical of the larger community. I recall photos of a young Adam Gadahn wearing an L.A. Dodgers baseball cap. Gadahn is now a member of al-Qaeda and the only U.S. citizen indicted for treason.
Nor is there any temperamental requirement for terrorism. In my experience, people watching videos of Osama bin Laden for the first time are often confused by the fact that he is so soft-spoken. In their minds all nihilistic maniacs ought to give speeches like a frenzied Hitler at a Nuremberg rally.
Muslims are especially at peril of falling into this pattern of thought. While homegrown terrorism is not exclusively limited to the Muslim community — the KKK being our nation’s oldest terrorist organization, for example — it is a fact that the vast majority of terrorists today are Muslims inspired by the ideology of jihad. Denying that someone could possibly be involved in terrorism because “he is so nice” or “seems so normal” can lead to an atmosphere of denial and paranoia. Since it is assumed that person after person charged is innocent because of a lack of abnormal behavior, it is often concluded that many Muslims are being arrested due to racism, religious bigotry, or an even larger conspiracy.
The signs of terrorism are there, but you will not necessarily find them by searching for outwardly antisocial behavior. The common denominator to most would-be terrorists is a devotion to the jihad ideology. And ideologies are hard to detect. There are few, if any, T-shirts in the U.S. celebrating Osama bin Laden and no reports of a homegrown terrorist wearing one.
Doris V
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If what this person writes has even a little bit of truth, UNM needs to monitor more closely what is being taught in the classroom. All religions have had and still have a dark side. Yes, wars have been fought in the name of religion. Catholics persecuted Jews, Muslims and the breakaway Protestants. No one can say they are above wrongdoing. We are all human, supposedly, and have many faults. We need to attempt to understand one another and work toward peace.
Mark Steyn
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The New York Times reports on itself:
The dl delivers yet another example of dimwittedness; printing unsubstantiated accusations. With geniouses like this at the helm, no wonder the newspaper biz is in the tank.
The New York Times plans to eliminate 100 newsroom jobs — about 8 percent of the total — by year’s end, offering buyouts to union and nonunion employees, and resorting to layoffs if it cannot get enough people to leave voluntarily, the paper announced on Monday.
The program mirrors one carried out in the spring of 2008, when the paper erased 100 positions in its newsroom, though other jobs were created, so the net reduction was smaller. That round of cuts included some layoffs of journalists — about 15 to 20, though The Times would not disclose the actual figure — which was the first time in memory such a layoff had happened.
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Times executives said this year that they did not anticipate — but would not rule out — the news staff shrinking in 2009, except through attrition. In fact, when employees took a 5 percent pay cut for most of this year, it was meant to forestall any staff reductions. But hopes for a year-end turnaround in the newspaper business have faded.
But Bill Keller, executive editor, does his best to buck up the troops: “Like you, I yearn for the day when we can do our jobs without looking over our shoulders for economic thunderstorms.”
Yes, but aside from “yearning,” what are you doing?
I don’t claim to know anything about American papers except as a reader. But I worked for many years in London, which is the most competitive newspaper market in the English-speaking world. Fleet Street has a whole bunch of problems but complacency isn’t one of them. Dips and downturns would occasion brainstorming, new hires, redirection, rival-nobbling by talent-poaching, and fresh content. America’s monodailies are in one headlong accelerating slide and there’s no sense in any of the priestly handwringing that anyone in the inner sanctum thinks, “You know, maybe the product could do with freshening up . . .” It’s all about sticking to “what we do best,” even as more and more Americans decide they can do without it.
The bland portentous liberalism of U.S. newspapers was a consequence of monopoly. The monopoly’s gone, and so therefore has the content model. If you don’t recognize that, you’re not being serious. Unless you’re just killing time till the federal bailout.
robert
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Once again my low opinion of most of white Amerika is confirmed. Racist from their mothers’ milk, the rest of the world knows whom it has to fear among terrorist, lawless nations; fascist, white Amerika.
A.W. Messenger
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Here’s an idea. If you really want to learn more about your religion, why don’t you transfer to Kabul University in Afghanistan. I’m sure they have a really good class on the specific nature of your religion.
No Pasaran!
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At the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen, this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed, stated Lord Christopher Monckton (former science adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher), speaking before the Minnesota Free Market Institute at an event at Bethel University in St. Paul on October 14.
“Your president will sign it. Most of the third world countries will sign it, because they think they’re going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regime from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won’t sign it.
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I read that treaty. And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created. The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfication of what is called, coyly, “climate debt” – because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.
How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize [winner]; of course he’ll sign it.”
As we noted before, The Nobel Prize Was to Get BHO to Scandinavia at the Exact Same Time that the UN’s Climate Change Conference Is Taking Place (also, The Nobel Prize is really Obama’s payback for disciplining the unruly United States and taming it to be a member of the European family of nations)… Incidentally, a lot more studies will need to be conducted regarding foreign countries’ contributing funds to BHO’s campaign last year to help bring all of this about…
Mike
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Mark,
newspapers are tanking because, as you have just done, they are being slowly killed by the internet. No one buys newspapers anymore. The digital age has predicated the need for a physical medium, so there’s nothing to buy. Everyone gets their news from the internet, from google news and the like.
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You still think it’s an issue of marketing, or ‘business model’. It’s not. It’s the simple fact that you cannot compete with free.
Why didn’t you know that?
Christopher Logan
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Islam is a religion of war.
http://islaminaction08.blogspot.com/2009/10/islam-101-religion-of-war_05.html
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Hey Robert race is Islam?
Elena
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“Once again my low opinion of most of white Amerika is confirmed. Racist from their mothers’ milk, the rest of the world knows whom it has to fear among terrorist, lawless nations; fascist, white Amerika.”
That generalization was extremely hurtful and hateful and will only serve to perpetuate more hate. There are white people in the US that are racist but you cannot look at every white person in the US and say they are racist.
Tom
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You know Robert, I’ll bet you’re not even smart enough to get the irony of complaining about “white Amerikans” and complaining about racism in the sentence. If only you could hear or read your own words, you’d realize that you are exactly what you despise.
Sam Duro
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Could we limit our comments to the topic at hand: UNM’s failure to properly advertise its accurate and relevant classes on Islam.
Religion or Country First
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SALAM,
If the United States was attacked by invaders who labeled themselves as fighting for ALLAH, whose side would you fight for?
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If you had knowledge of an attack on our, and your, university to “kill the infidels,” would you give a warning and try to stop it?
Do you praise martyrs (suicide bombers)?
RELIGION OR COUNTRY FIRST?
PROOF SALAM & LOBO?
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SALAM WRITES OFTEN FOR THE DAILY LOBO BUT WHERE IS HE NOW WITH PROOF OF HIS ALLEGATIONS AGAINST PROFESSORS?
WHICH PROFESSORS ARE THEY? I WANT PROOF NOW FROM MR. SALAM AND THE DAILY LOBO SINCE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE PROOF FOR ALLOWING A LETTER WITH THESE SCANDALOUS ALLEGATIONS!
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EDITOR OF LOBO, DON’T BLAME IT ON A WORK-STUDY STUDENT!!!
slowhike
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Hat’s off to UNM Professors of Islam if Salam’s post is accurate. I must say that I am surprised to say the least that UNM Profs would be teaching some politically incorrect truths about the Islamic Religion.
There are good and bad concepts within the Muslim and Christian religious teachings. However, I thought we were only allowed to teach the negative Christian stuff!!!One of the bad truths is that Muhammed did not teach “peace and tolerance” as Jesus did in the Christian religion.
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Islam and Chrisianity are nothing alike, Muhammed was a man of war and Jesus was a man of peace. Who knows if they even really existed, but according to the Koran and Bible this is accurate.
Before Muhammad became a prophet he was a raider, Jesus was a carpenter.
Javi
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Bottom line Mr. Salam, you have no argument. It lacks any kind of substance or evidence. Oddly enough, what you claim to be false advertising on the beliefs of Islam seems to be the only things with any good evidence. Even if you disregard the verifiable claims made by Phyllis Chesler, you cannot ignore what the Taliban did to Afghanistan in the 1990’s which they claimed as an “Islamic state.” It was during this period of time that the people saw the most oppression, from public executions for infidelity (executions were mostly reserved just for women) to beatings for cheering too loud at soccer games. Interestingly enough, the Taliban claimed to just be following the guidelines set forth in the Koran. Why would they make such a statement to back their despicable actions if there was not evidence to substantiate their claim?! I have no doubt Mr. Salam that the majority of Muslims spit on these groups. But you fail to recognize the fact that the teachings these groups follow are found within the religion they claim to follow. The religion of Islam.
Bea Turner
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Does Mr. Salam dismiss the extreme actions of the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood, etc… that advance the goals of Islam?
If not, where are the moderate Muslims publicly denouncing these radical actions which only make the larger world Muslim population as a whole take the brunt of the criticism due to the actions of a few?
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Did Mr. Salam denounce the actions of Muslims on 9-11 or did he dance in the streets? Was that action discussed in his class? Were Muslims in the class justifying 9-11?
I have yet to hear or see a protest by Muslims denouncing the actions of Muslims! Why?
slowhike
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The theory of jihad is not an American military or political invention. It is taken from the Koran, the Hadith and Islamic tradtion. Western liberalism, especially humanist and socialists find it hard to believe this. It is extraordinary how many people have written about 9-11 w/o mentioning Islam. The Islmic jihadist say that their motivation is the divine duty they are charged with by the Muslim religion to fight in the literal sense of the word until man made law has been replaced with God’s law- their god, the sharia. Once they have conquered the globe then all will be well with the world! Ha! What idiocy is this, what monstrosity of acceptance has been dawned by the American liberals and what mockery have the jihadist made of the liberals and their “peaceful” Muslim brothers?
Michael
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Let me begin by saying I didn’t read much of this thread.
But I have a contribution [WITH NAMES!] to make to the discussion. While at UNM, I took 2 courses that qualify as “instruction involving the subject of Islam.” One was the basic level course, Religion 107 with Dan Wolne. The other was History 251 (Asian Civilization to 1600) with Pat Risso. In neither of these courses was I taught that Muslims are violent or hateful and in neither of these courses was I taught that I ought to hate or be afraid of Muslims. There was actually an exchange student from Pakistan in the history class who was able to often give us some extra insights into how they do things where he’s from.
In fact, both of them tried to tell us that we were missing out by not being well-informed about Islam. Risso shared with us a lot of poetry from their culture, and while I wasn’t particularly fond of it I didn’t find anything offensive about it. Wolne presented us with his thesis, which he also presented to a council in which he was called to serve shortly after the events of 9/11 wherein he concluded that the support of the attack was not primarily motivated by a desire for religious war. Rather, he claimed that Muslims saw it as a defensive measure to be taken against America because we can no longer keep our multinational corporations under control and they are expanding deeper and deeper into foreign countries where they are largely unwelcome. They are supposedly unwelcome because they promote values which run counter to the Islamic tradition and are seen as radical over there. These values are observed in things such as our violent media and the sultriness of our dress, and Muslims in these countries form their opinion of our moral constitution based on the things they see in these “American” stores. They don’t want their children adopting more western values (such as the mini-skirt), but it’s all the rage amongst the young who can afford it to look like us and act like us. So their reaction against our culture occurs with the conservatives in a very similar way to the fashion in which conservative American Christians rejected hippie culture or rock & roll.
I learned in Risso’s history class that the Muslims actually practiced tolerance toward Jews and Christians before the converse was true.In the 1400s, they allowed Jews and Christians to build their own neighborhoods within their Muslim cities and gave them the freedom to practice their own religion and even collect their own taxes as long as the neighborhood as a collective still paid some taxes to the Muslim government at the head of the state.
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Now with regards to the issue of whether or not they practice violence as an inherent part of their religion, I cn only find ambiguous answers. It seems that it’s a hotly debated topic even amongst Muslims, based on what I remember of the Saffavid letters we read in class. One was arguing to another and said that is was necessary to “let not an infidel live,” while the other argued against that interpretation. I haven’t read much of Islam’s scriptures, so I can’t tell you for sure that they do or don’t teach religious purging, but I can tell you that I was not taught anything along the lines of this topic’s accuser in my classes at UNM.
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