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Suspected stabber at large around UNM

Last updated: 02/15/10 11:49pm

A woman claiming to have been stabbed ran into a classroom in the Anthropology Building around 7:55 p.m., according to several witnesses who were in the classroom.
Student Mike Johnson, who was visibly shaken, said a woman ran into his music appreciation class clutching her throat and asking for help.

“I set my set stuff down and this poor lady walks in. She was holding her throat. She said, ‘somebody stabbed me, please help,’” he said. “We all kind of looked at each other like, ‘She’s joking.’ She moved her hand. There was blood all over her shirt.”
A red substance that appeared to be blood was splattered on the sidewalk in front of the north entrance of the Anthropology Building, and the area is marked off by police tape.

UNMPD responded to the scene, but deferred all comment to Lt. Robert Haarhues, UNMPD spokesman. Haarhues did not return several calls over the course of two hours.
Several students in the classroom corroborated Johnson’s story. Johnson said police responded within 30 seconds.

He said the class responded immediately to the woman’s injury. He said several of his classmates called the police.

“I took my shirt off, gave it to her,” he said. “She put it around her throat. It’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen. It shouldn’t happen at school, man.”

Kyle Morgan, another student in the class, said he and several of his male classmates bolted out the door after the woman described her assailant as a tall African American man with a black hooded sweatshirt and black hat.

He said they ran around the entire building but couldn’t find the man in question.
Johnson said he saw a man that matched the woman’s description standing outside the Anthropology Building just before Johnson sat down after retrieving books from his car. He said he and the man exchanged niceties, but he looked “kind of shady.”

A UNM TextMe alert system was sent out at 9:25 p.m. It said that the suspect was at large and encouraged students to be alert and walk in groups. And at 9:55 p.m., a second alert was sent out telling recipients that no further information was expected Monday night and to report suspicious activity.

Published February 15, 2010 in News

34 comments



Benjamin

February 16, 2010 at 12:36 AM
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Precisely the reason, along with the incidents at Virginia Tech and University of Alabama, that the New Mexico legislature should amend the state’s firearm statutes to permit duly licensed citizens to carry concealed weapons on the university campus.


Kyle Morgan

February 16, 2010 at 1:09 AM
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Amending the fire-arm laws would have no bearing on this incident. First of all it was a knife not a gun. Second, people willing to kill others over cell-phones don’t concern themselves with weapon laws. One thing that came to light tonight is that emergency phones are few and far between on campus. Students searched for a blue phone and found nothing. If it wasn’t for the quick 911 calls from the students who knows what might have taken place. UNMPD seemed relatively nonchalant about creating a crime-scene and getting statements. They didn’t lock the building down and let students wander all over the crime-scene. They had a description of the suspect within minutes of the incident and seemed to send nobody to look for the suspect. Myself and a few other men from the class didn’t think twice about running out and looking for the suspect when the injured woman entered the class. Armed police officers didn’t find it as urgent. One officer was inquiring as to where a bathroom was, as if his bladder concerned him more than the woman on the ground bleeding from her throat. Within five seconds the students had there shirts off applying pressure to the woman’s wounds. Not one officer relieved the students from attending to the woman’s wounds. They just stood around waiting for the E.M.T unit. The students really stepped up to the plate tonight and possibly saved this woman’s life.


David Wilson

February 16, 2010 at 7:44 AM
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Yes, if it wasn’t for those laws, gang bangers would wander around with illegally concealed weapons, killing each other. Oh wait – they do. And they are ready and willing to fire those guns at little or no provocation, because they are sociopaths.

No matter how macho you believe yourself to be, most rational, well-adjusted people hesitate to fire a gun at another person. If you pull a gun and hesitate, then you are likely to be shot.

Read more …

This guy had a knife, and ran away. If a student had a gun, and had seen him running away, would he have shot at the assailant? Yes, very likely. And he would have been discharging a weapon illegally, because you can’t fire a gun at a fleeing criminal; you can only use it to preserve life or protect from serious imminent harm. So you either end up hesitating and getting killed, or you end up illegally firing and getting charged.

I don’t have a problem with gun ownership; but people who are constantly wanting to take guns into new areas – our campus, bars, restaurants – do worry me. I think concealed carry should only be allowed if you have had far more extensive training – like in the army – than the short course they mandate at the moment. It’s far too easy to get a license.

Let’s leave policing to the police.


Post american

February 16, 2010 at 7:56 AM
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In all my years at UNM I’ve never seen the campus police ‘walking’ the beat.


Post american

February 16, 2010 at 7:57 AM
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In all my years at UNM I’ve never seen the campus police ‘walking’ the beat.


Student - on and off campus

February 16, 2010 at 8:13 AM
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Good for UNMPD for responding so quickly. It’s those moments that count, and they know it. In my 5 years at UNM, I’ve seen UNMPD walking, biking and driving several times, especially in the instances I was on campus late at night. It’s hard to be everywhere at once, but they do a good job of taking care of this campus, look how often that this kind of stuff doesn’t happen.

I hope they find the guy.


Betty

February 16, 2010 at 8:14 AM
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Why did it take an hour and a half for the Emergency Notification System to kick in? Telling people to “be on the look out” and to “stay in groups” does no good when the stabber is probably long gone. Not only does this do nothing to protect other people on campus, but the delay probably contributed to the stabber’s escape.


SickToMyStomach

February 16, 2010 at 9:24 AM
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UNM POLICE FOOT PATROLS! NOW!


chris

February 16, 2010 at 9:41 AM
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The daily lobo smells like old cabbage.


Linda

February 16, 2010 at 10:17 AM
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I didn’t get an emergency text, nor did my daughter. We both signed up for them.


Kenzie

February 16, 2010 at 10:19 AM
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Lucky for this woman that she happend to run into a classroom with people willing to step up to the plate and help out. Good job people!


DEEDEE

February 16, 2010 at 10:26 AM
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I think UNMPD should do foot patrol especially at night. I was leaving an evening class at the communication and journalism building on a monday evening three weeks ago. I encountered a tall guy wearing a black pullover in the parking lot of logan hall. He was walking towards me and I noticed that no one else was around so I kinda got scared. I’m handicapped so I am an easy target. I stopped where I was walking because my vehicle was parked in the dark and the street was lit. He saw me and then started walking differently, kinda thuggish. I think he was just trying to scare me and instead of walking on the other side of the street, he came right by me. As soon as I saw him make the turn down the street, I ran to my car and jumped in. After hearing what happened last nite, I am now scared to go to my evening classes. I think UNMPD needs to be out there in car, on bike and on foot, at least then the criminals would see this as a deterrence to their criminal activity.


jane

February 16, 2010 at 10:34 AM
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I spent 10 years on UNM campus as both a student and an employee. My office was located very near where the stabbing occurred, and that part of campus was poorly lit and often nearly vacant at night. I found the walk to my car to be nerve-racking and I never once saw campus police there. I called for an escort to my car once, but it took 45 minutes for them to get there and the walk took 5.


JJ

February 16, 2010 at 10:53 AM
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I don’t understand how UNMPD can be so quick on responding to the call, but so sluggish at the scene. To not relieve the kids of their very heroic duties that they showed by helping the victim, but instead standing around like they were site seeing the anthropology building. I cannot believe there lack luster attitudes and believe someone needs to take a look at how UNMPD acted at the scene.


Lisa

February 16, 2010 at 10:56 AM
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After witnessing a fist fight that escalated into one guy getting jumped by three in the Sub and now this incident proves that campus safety is an issue here. No student, faculty member or staff should feel unsafe and campus police needs to have more of a presence on campus.


L

February 16, 2010 at 11:38 AM
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Why did we get the message a full hour after the fact- I guess those alerts are useless.


Post American

February 16, 2010 at 12:23 PM
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B.S.

If UNMPD actually did their damn jobs and WALKED the beat there wouldn’t be people smoking, everywhere. It isn’t up to students or staff to enforce UNM’s smoking policy. Just now walking across campus I counted over 15 people smoking, one was smoking weed! There is graffiti scrawled on just about every nook and cranny. There are gay people crawling around the men’s bathrooms. It probably won’t be until there is a shooting or worse on campus for Administration to get it’s **** straight. BTW there are camera’s everywhere. Does someone actually monitor these cameras, who, and where?


K

February 16, 2010 at 1:32 PM
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Every time I am walking around on campus at night I never see any police patrolling. In fact, every time I walk by the UNM police station every spot is full with cop cars. Obviously no one is driving around monitoring for illegal activity. There are also numerous areas where the paths are not well lit. I think there are numerous safety concerns that need to be addressed on UNM campus.

BUT I think monitoring cigarette smoking is the least of their concerns. I would rather them be worrying about my safety than enforcing the smoking ban. Plus, why are you so worried about the weed smoking? I doubt you are getting second hand smoke from that!


K

February 16, 2010 at 1:39 PM
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I agree, we need more UNMPD on foot patrol. I also have night classes and have to walk through several areas on campus that are poorly lit. I have seen UNMPD in cars, but never on foot or bike. I also think it would be great if UNM would offer self-defense classes free to students and employees.
p.s. What’s up with that last comment? “Gay people crawling around the men’s bathroom” ??
As a gay person, I can assure you that when I’m in the bathroom, I’m in there to go to the bathroom only. You won’t catch “the gay” from seeing us in the bathrooms. And if someone does proposition you in a bathroom, just politely decline. Women have to deal with that kind of crap constantly. Don’t turn this important safety issue into a place to spew your homophobia.


post american

February 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM
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I smoke weed, at home, not on campus. My point was if the ‘UNM’ ‘Campus’ police actually had a presence on the UNM campus, there wouldn’t be scores of gross people smoking on UNM’s smokeless campus.


post american

February 16, 2010 at 1:44 PM
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I smoke weed, at home, not on campus. My point was if the ‘UNM’ ‘Campus’ police actually had a presence on the UNM campus, there wouldn’t be scores of gross people smoking on UNM’s smokeless campus.


sophia Kyziridis

February 16, 2010 at 2:22 PM
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i was in that class and i think it took the cops over 8 minutes to come to help her… considering it was on campus i think the response time was unacceptable. after they came they did a good job controlling the situation. Our class jumped out of their seat to help but if we were not in there this would not have ended the same way. there are so many sketchy parts of our campus and even if there are cop cars i almost never see cops especially at night.


s

February 16, 2010 at 2:23 PM
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i was in that class and i think it took the cops over 8 minutes to come to help her… considering it was on campus i think the response time was unacceptable. after they came they did a good job controlling the situation. Our class jumped out of their seat to help but if we were not in there this would not have ended the same way. there are so many sketchy parts of our campus and even if there are cop cars i almost never see cops especially at night.


AJR

February 16, 2010 at 3:24 PM
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“Let’s leave policing to the police.”

You make me LOL.


LM

February 16, 2010 at 7:25 PM
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Has anyone heard information on the cause of the stabbing? I have heard rumors about the man stealing her phone, but haven’t found this in print.

Was this a random attack? (web links anyone?) New information would be nice.

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