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UNM athletes they're exempt from everything

Last updated: 02/12/10 10:13am

Editor,

A week ago, a student walked into class 30 minutes late, sat down, opened a bag of chips and started to text without any regard to how disruptive his actions were — much less the disrespect he showed toward the professor. The professor asked the student for his name and the student lied and gave the professor a fake name. He told the professor that his name was Tony Sloan.

Different day, same student interrupts the professor once again by walking to the front desk in the middle of the professor’s lecture only to set the attendance sheet on the desk, and to make matters worse he has the audacity to tell the professor, “What’s up?”

Unbelievable! The student who believes that he is above all is UNM’s finest athlete, A.J. Hardeman, the forward for UNM’s Men’s Basketball team.

I wonder if head basketball coach Steve Alford, UNM students, UNM alumni and the fans of Lobo basketball would be so quick to applaud Hardeman’s deeds away from the court.

Will disciplinary action be taken against him? Or will the status quo prevail?

I venture to say that the status quo will prevail because God knows that athletics comes before academics here at UNM. After all, we need the money the Athletics Department brings to the University. Hence, it really doesn’t matter what the behavior of a coach and/or a student athlete is as long as the University gets the big “W.”

Denise Angell
UNM Student

Published February 11, 2010 in Letters, Opinion

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38 comments



Steve Chavez

February 12, 2010 at 6:18 AM
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The Prof can lower his grades legitimately since the player is probably not doing the work unless he cheats and has someone do it for him. The student should also be penalized for being tardy, missing class which can lower a grade due to the number of absents, and non-class participation. This is common.

I don’t know the player since I haven’t watched any game in years but he probably thinks he’s going to the NBA according to his behaviour. He’s cool, great, popular, famous, IN HIS OWN MIND so he can do anything and get away with it.

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This type of behaviour also proves HE, AND OTHERS, HAVE BEEN GETTING AWAY WITH IT FOR YEARS!

If the Professors take action against their grades, then, and only then, will they, and Alford/All Coaches, wake up! IT’S ONLY FAIR RIGHT?


Daniel

February 12, 2010 at 9:25 AM
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I find it funny that whoever wrote this letter and the Daily Lobo for publishing it are cowards and is keeping this letter anonymous. Tell us your name! Maybe your allegationmay be more credible.

And as far as the Daily Lobo. Poor journalism. If you can’t verify the allegations….don’t publish the letter.


Tim Scott

February 12, 2010 at 10:09 AM
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Students should not be afraid to call out disruptive classmates. That type of behavior is not acceptable. I pay tuition so I can listen to the professor or student discussions relating to the course material, not your cell phone or the crinkle of your bag of chips. I do not have a problem telling another student to stuff it when they are babbling in the back of the room or otherwise hindering my ability to hear the lecture. Shut your mouth and let the rest of us learn, and if you can’t do that then get the EFF out of the classroom.

Daniel, you raise a good point about the anonymity of the writer here The DL has, in the past anyway, had a policy about publishing anonymous letters to the editor. However, I don’t doubt that this incident happened…I see it all the time from athletes and non-athletes alike.


Ryan

February 12, 2010 at 10:42 AM
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@Daniel,
You should try and actually read to the bottom of the article, where the author of this letter to the editor is clearly noted. This way, when you decide to call the anonymous writer a “coward,” you can look like even more of an idiot. Apparently your inclination towards such allegations has nothing to do with the author, but your predisposition towards students who actually go to attend the university for reasons bigger than athletics.

Consider reading the entire article before making assumptions and a fool out of yourself. It’s not poor journalism, it’s free press. If the people are not allowed to voice their opinion of such events (which the majority of students can claim they’ve seen) in their local press, then what arena merits such accommodations? Facebook, Myspace? Sure, Denise could have gone to AJ’s Facebook page to harass and slandered his name for the whole Facebook community to see (as others did to Elizabeth Lambert). But instead, she took the collegiate, diplomatic approach of uniting those athletes and students who take their education seriously against those that do not. Again, I believe cowardliness is not the issue here. It is the refrain of actually addressing these issues that causes people like you to assume and name-call.


Tim

February 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM
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@ Ryan: It wasn’t there when the string of comments began. DL put it in as an afterthought. Seems they’re still working on their html skillz!!


Randal Bottomfeeder

February 12, 2010 at 11:54 AM
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I think you are missing the bigger picture here. A.J. Hardeman is an african american, aka the breed that were shipped from africa and bred to be strong laborers and NOT intelligent, decent human beings. It isn’t so much that he is an athlete, but rather he is being allowed to act out his common cultural behaviors. Blacks are rude, loud, inconsiderate, lack empathy, etc. You can only blame him so much as you can blame a dog for barking all day long.


Highly skeptical

February 12, 2010 at 1:06 PM
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Randal Bottomfeeder? What a suitable name for a rascist like yourself. I can hardly believe that an inclusive university like UNM envisions itself to be allows hate mongering like this to be published its student newspaper.


John

February 12, 2010 at 1:10 PM
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Wow, are comments like Randal’s what The Daily Lobo defines as “free speech”?

Shame on you, what a disgrace.


Jedyn

February 12, 2010 at 1:45 PM
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Was this an English class that A.J. disrupted? I wonder, because Denise Angell writes like a 4th grader. She also has syphilis. Gross.


Highly skeptical

February 12, 2010 at 2:01 PM
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Denise Angell wrote:

“The professor asked the student for his name and the student lied and gave the professor a fake name. He told the professor that his name was Tony Sloan.”

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Lobo men’s basketball players are some of the most well-known people in the entire city of Albuquerque. Does Ms. Angell (if that is her real name) honestly expect anyone with half-a-brain to believe that the professor wouldn’t have known who the young man was?

You would suspect that his 6’7” height might have provided a clue.

Just sayin…


Ryan

February 12, 2010 at 2:20 PM
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I retract my defense of free speech, due to the idiocy displayed by Jedyn and Bottomfeeder. My apologies to those that take forums like these seriously. Apparently accusing others of venereal diseases is more mature than a 4th grader. Sorry for turning this forum into a myspace page.

@highly skeptical:
Given that not everyone is as infatuated with AJ as he is himself, then it does make sense that the professor truly did not know who he (AJ) was. The issue isn’t the professor not knowing his student’s name, it’s a student being irreverent and disrespectful. That’s what is wrong here.


Highly skeptical

February 12, 2010 at 2:26 PM
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Ryan wrote:

“Given that not everyone is as infatuated with AJ as he is himself, then it does make sense that the professor truly did not know who he (AJ) was. The issue isn’t the professor not knowing his student’s name, it’s a student being irreverent and disrespectful. That’s what is wrong here.”

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To me the true issue here is did this situation even occur. I have serious doubts that it did, thus my screen name “Highly skeptical”.


Lobo Joe

February 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM
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What do you expect when athletes see criminal acts of their coachesand administrators go unpunished? When coach Thugsley is still on campus and not in jail, when Mr. Krebs is still stealing salary and bonus for lying and obfuscating relevant details of an investigation, when President schmidly gives sole source consulting contracts to his cronies, when the Board of Regents, rather than being responsible stewards for UNM’s interests, spends time and money naming buildings and filling their faces at Board meetings; why would some athletes be expected to comport themselves like responsible adults when they see what these hijo de putas are getting away with and laughing at us while they steal, lie, and cheat the taxpayers, students, alums and fans?


Highly skeptical

February 12, 2010 at 3:15 PM
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Hey Lobo Joe! Why do I get the impression that you were one of those kids who always got picked last when choosing sides for dodge ball in gym class?


Denise Angell

February 12, 2010 at 3:15 PM
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First of all, the incident did occur as 50 other students who witnessed it can verify.
Secondly, I unfortunately had to dumb down my article…hence, the language of a “4th grader” was necessary…consider the audience.(Jedyn, Highly Skeptical, Randal Bottomfeeder)
Thirdly, to the individual who claims that I have an STD (Jedyn), before you slander my name, you should at least know who I am. May I suggest that you refrain from vomiting your adolescent behavior for all to read before posting an opinion.
Finally, the purpose of my article was to expose the behavior of this insulent, rude, irreverent, disrespectful basketball player who obviously does not care about his education since he attends UNM on a scholarship. On a side note, the professor, who by the way has a disability, does not know A.J Hardeman by name just like the other 50 students in the class that he does not know by name!
Enough said.


Highly skeptical

February 12, 2010 at 3:27 PM
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Denise Angell wrote:

“First of all, the incident did occur as 50 other students who witnessed it can verify.”

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Well why don’t some of the other 48 (minus the student in question) weigh in here? Or was this alleged incident only annoying to you or maybe even a figment of an overly active imagination? Surely you can rally some of them around your cause that is unless they would just be some of your Face Book friends who aren’t even in your class.

If this student is so arrogant and disrespectful, why are we just now hearing about it when he has been at UNM for at least two years? Surely, he didn’t just wake up one day and suddenly start acting this way?

Again, consider me “Highly skeptical” because your claims sound like a load of BS to me.


docsavage

February 12, 2010 at 4:04 PM
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@Highly Skeptical – please refer to letter #2 in this thread is this seems to pertain to you.

Apart from that, I hope to God you’re on some athletic scholarship or payroll. Otherwise your remarks just make you a sad wanna-be.


Gilbertgrape

February 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM
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UNM athletes they’re exempt from everything”

In Denise Angell“s letter she states the bad behavior she has witnessed of “one” athlete and the heading refers to all UNM
athletes? This paper is so “anti-athlete” that it is getting pathetic. The are hundreds of respectful, hard-working, athletes at UNM and it is unfair to group them all together just because you have a problem with one certain athlete.
It just came out yesterday that UNM had 50 student athletes Awarded Academic All-MWC Honors For Fall 2009. The Lobos recorded the second-most honorees among the nine MWC members and upped their numbers by three. Sounds like some athletes are doing something right.


Charlie

February 12, 2010 at 4:18 PM
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I have a very simple question for Denise.

Why not go and talk to A.J., yourself? Why do you feel it is right to make these situations public? If you have talked to A.J., why not call the Basketball office to inform the Coaches of one of their players dis-respective behavior?

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Look, I get it, athletics is the great evil at UNM, even-though they provide a good for the community that seems to unite the city in pretty special ways. It just seems that this letter was about making sure everybody knew that these student athletes are not perfect.

What is sad, is that student athletes are NOT allowed to get jobs like normal students, NOT allowed to accept any outside financial help, and have a schedule that most students would not be able to handle. But we don’t talk about that, instead we are angry cause we (falsely) think their programs are anti-educational and raise tuition.

They are in a fishbowl in this state, if they do anything wrong, people are fast to jump them. So this letter is not surprising, and sadly shows a lack of humility, compassion, patience, and also a lack of actually going through the right channels.

I bet if this was just a normal sophomore who did this, NO letter would have been written.

Next time Denise, or anyone else, talk to the player, call the coaches before trying to get up on a soapbox and tell us of others’ imperfections.

And by the way, the teacher KNOWS who A.J. is. Not because he is a celebrity, but because all teachers of student athletes are in communication with academic advisers.


lobo joe

February 12, 2010 at 5:38 PM
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Highly skeptical-

Just because I wouldn’t let you perform cunnilingus on my dog “ Lady”, is no reason for you not to respond to my accusations. Try evaluating the message rather than the messenger. Also,if you acknowledge which faculty clown you are covering for( Krebs, Thugsley or Schmidly), I’ll not mention that I saw you in drag, trolling for homeless men,on Central Avenue.


oh denise,

February 12, 2010 at 7:09 PM
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Denise, only use secondly if you use firstly. Also, don’t ever use firstly – it makes you sound like a douche.
Have fun in English!


slowhike

February 12, 2010 at 7:34 PM
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Hey this is life……athletes are just people, some are punks and show no respect, much like Michael Vick. Others are very respectful and don’t take their athletic skills for granted. If this individual, AJ, is disrespectful to the professors and fellow students – believe me, he was a punk long before he became an athlete. His athletic position merely exacerbated his punkdom.


slowhike

February 12, 2010 at 7:44 PM
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Highly skeptical,

One plausible reason that other students didn’t weigh in during the class is that UNM has expertly created a culture of reverse discrimination and whole heartedly supports it. For all we know the professor may feel like “he owes” AJ and should therefore allow him any misbehavior and give him a underserved high grade. Why- well because he’s black of course and all African Americans deserve to be given free stuff, along with a host of other academic liberal radical concepts that pervade the campus. We don’t dare hold him accountable as we would any caucasian student who is horribly guilty of creating this hate-mongering country and deprived groups of minorities. In fact we should lynch the professor if he’s white!


RJJ

February 12, 2010 at 11:00 PM
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This is college and we are all adults. So if somebody chooses to come late, leave early, text in class, eat, or drink in class, it should not matter. Everybody pays for their own education, whether it is playing a sport at UNM and getting paid for it, or working a secular job and paying for it. Maybe the day AJ came to class late, he was caught up somewhere and did not have a chance to eat something. It happens! Also, why does the ethnicity of AJ matter? It does not matter if he is black, white, purple or blue! He is a person! So please, STOP making it a point to play the race card. Athletes are not exempt for everything. They have to earn their scholarships, and earn the credit that they are given. And if they make one wrong move, the media is in their face ready to report the bad. But if a regular student does something, it is not reported to the media. Cut AJ a break, and give him the benefit of the doubt. Talk to him and ask him what happened and explain to him that his coming in late and making noise with his chip bag bugged you. Seriously, if we as the UNM community do not stand behind our OWN athletes, how can we expect others to? Thanks for reading! :)


athlete

February 13, 2010 at 2:21 AM
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It sucks having us all rounded up into a “one-size fits all jersey” of assumptions. I am not one who shows up late and disrupts class as many of my peers have and do. However, this type of behavior only propagates the generalization and stereotype of athletics.

I am stuck between supporting the student body and looking for ways to keep this type of behavior out of the classroom, or defending my title as an athlete. I think it is unfortunate that such behavior occurs, even from my teammates as well as non-athletic students. The issue is that if you don’t respect yourself, you can’t respect others. AJ’s behavior only supports that theory.

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Seeing how this is a collegiate forum, maybe those of us who have pointed out the splinter in our neighbor’s eye can learn the lesson of looking at the timber in our own. Yet, we can also see that some of us enrolled in this university have a long way to go before we have the privilege to attribute to such forums. Using foul, slanderous language is not only ignorant but down-right sophomoric. Please, before commenting on here, finish your Philosophy and English classes, THEN, you may add to the debate; rather than resolve to middle school tactics.

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