Perhaps yu should varify your facts before you spout an opinion. Most money for the projects you speak of came from approreations long before the Stimulus $$$ even hit the streets. I suppose if you use the, “creat, or save” as your guild line you might find 100 jobs “saved or created” at UNM. I really wish when people offer opinions, that they tell it as it is their opinion, not gospal from the pope himself.

What Maggie says may be true, although I’m not sure how the stimulus had anything to do with UNM’s improvements.
But the reality is that layoffs are ALREADY happening (just ask Carmen Brown’s Enrollment Management Division).

stimulus dollars are going to improve US infrastructure which has been way overdue (highways, bridges, etc.) and help in education as Maggie listed. At least we get to see a benefit instead of tax breaks for the rich which only line the pockets of the elite. No matter who you are someone you know has benefited from the stimulus.

Magge,

If you don’t like what people are saying about your master’s failed economic policies, no need to lie about it, especially if you are UNM faculty. Represent your school with integrity, not distortion and deceit.

Dear BC
That explains the 9.7% unemployment.
Most of the stimulus went to paybacks and kickbacks to unions, and big supporters of the Dems. Only 37% of the suppsoed “Shovel Ready” jobs were actually ready, and have been started.
The Government used the stimulus money to steal GM and Chrysler from the investors and gave them to the unions. And they’re still borrowing more money.
We used the stimulus money to prop up banks and investment firms who financed mortgages to people who didn’t deserve them or qualify for them, and then bailed them out.
That was the excuse for the financial reform crappola that was passed and signed last week. And how much will effect the biggest perpretrator of the scandal (Freddie and Fannie)???? None of it. They are exempted from the entire bull..I mean bill.
I don’t care much, because I’m older student,and going to retire soon anyway, but you younger students are going to foot the bills for all this. Where do you think they’re getting the money to pay for all this? They’re borrowing it! And guess who’s going to have to pay it back??? YOU ARE!!!!! Last November when Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefits he said this was okay because the extension was paid for. IT WAS ALLRIGHT because the extension was paid for by trimming money from the stimulus. Now the Repubs are stonewalng and keeping Americans from their due “Welfare” because they are again demanding that the benefits be paid for by congress before they just sign and give the money away. But you don’t care, because according to you “No Matter Who You Are Someone You Know Has Benefitted From The Stimulus.”
Wake up and smell the coffee. You’re getting RIPPED OFF!!!
Someone is trying to take your income away from you that you haven’t even earned yet. This January will bring us the single biggest steaming lump of tax increases This country has ever seen. And this will help as well, won’t it, because it will mean more revenue from the rich people huh? I guess it’s alright, provided you don’t aspire to be more than a a lower middle income household, struggling to get by with a go-nowhere job, and a house that you can’t afford, and a couple of car loans for some euro-trash you can’t afford to keep running right? I mean why would you concer yourself about someone who worked hard and achieved success? WTF, why are you even going to college now. You could be out earning a living and living large while working the night shift at the Seven-Eleven, or even Bartending! What do you need this education crap for? You’re not planning on ever succeeding to the levels someone else might call rich? Why bother when you can just slide along in the sludge of mediocrity, and get by with big-mac meal deals and all you can eat buffets. (sorry I’m hungey as I’m writing this) UNFORTUNATELY for the rest of us, we are trying to better ourselves and our positions in this life. I’m not afraid wor working longer hours, and working harder as long as I get more money for it. I want the same things as you but I don’t want to have to take an 84 month loan for a used VW rabbit diesel. I want a nice house, and I want success. I want to be able to buy the nice things I can afford with my success, and I don’t want to hear the mice in the gutter crying because they can’t have the same things.
This country is the golden path for everyone outside these borders. They KNOW that if they come here, work hard, make sacrifices, they can SUCCEED, and SUCCEED BIGTIME!!!! That’s why they want to come here. They want the freedoms and opportunities that our society gives it’s citizens for free. Don’t make those of us who succeed your sacrificial lambs. Don’t expect to live in the same house, or neighborhood as us. Don’t restrict me from using my success, my influence and my money to have nice things, visit better doctors, and drive shiny cars that you can’t afford.
And by the way the Slurpee machine is out of order again…

Production is not equivalent to ripping off Peter to pay Paul. Bad economics.

Dear Thomas, I wrote the grants for this money – as did my colleagues, so the facts are right here in black and white. The stimulus wasn’t going to save every job, but it has created some real positions here that every student benefits from. Those are the facts. I’m sure people have lost their jobs at UNM, but the stimulus has people getting paychecks who weren’t getting them before we wrote these proposals.

The Bush administration passed several “stimulus” packages and those did nothing to help Republicans at the polls. I believe Obama’s promise to end “the same failed economic policies that got us here in the first place” was one of the keys to his victory.

Unfortunately, we are not seeing an end to those policies…we are seeing more. How much more money do the bankers need? How much more protectionist legislation does Wall Street need? And why in the world would Obama reappoint GWB’s pick for Fed Chairman, Ben Bernanke?

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Maggie,

Tell that to your future students (kids) that face trillions in debt due to your over zealous need to “recieve now and worry about consequences later” philosophy.

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Prof. Werner-Washburne:

Thank you for stating the facts on stimulus funding. What a shame that our campus newspaper’s Web site allows right-wing trolls who have no connection to UNM to anonymously post messages calling faculty members liars and thieves.

Oh Lawrence,

I am UNM Alumnus, major Biology and minor in Chemistry. Get your facts straight. I have probably donated more to the success of this department than any measly stimulus funds because of my success and wanting to do so (I bet that causes you loads of envy).

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I are Damian. I are smart. I get degree in biology and chemistry. The department should name a storage room after me because my mind is like a empty closet. You must be jealous of the free time my success offers, it allows me to post irate comments on my former college newspaper. I are so great I even made the questions in the verify box below the comment box. I learned them going to school. You wish you could have the intellectual capacity to render the xenophobic messages that fill my posts. Now I are going to respond with the zeal of a man whose parents didn’t hug him enough, because I am so darn angry at the world and any success which I cannot be attributed. If only you understood how important I are, then you would realize my mouth is not garbage, man, that’s just my breath.

So “Damian,” the objectivist ideologue who believes that all taxation for government social programs is actually “stealing” his hard-earned pay, went to UNM — a state-funded school. Interesting. How did that happen? Did he read “Atlas Shrugged” after he graduated?

Why did the objectivist not go to a private school? That would be more consistent with his Tea Party ideaology.

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Wait a minute … since Damian responded to my post, I guess he admits that he’s a right-wing troll! He certainly knew who I was talking about.

Lawrence,

Indeed it is a misfortune that I have to operate within the scope of which society presents, even the most radical ideologue understands this. I am compelled by force, just as the slave is to his master.

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Oh, and the company is a prominent medical device company (I will not tell you because you are not someone I trust for obvious reasons).

We used to dump millions of dollars into nanotechnology for better health. Some very fascinating things, however, a lot of that was scrapped. Why? Well, now we are getting taxed by the Savior to the tune of billions of dollars with the new healthcare bill.

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As usual, Damian does not address the fundamental point of the posted argument, which I will repeat in plain English:

One who professes to be against all “collectivist” government-funded social programs like state colleges should reasonably be expected to practice what he preaches and attend a private college. No adult is “forced” to attend UNM or any other college, thus when one takes advantage of a system that one claims to be opposed to, that person is a hypocrite.

Silly man Lawrence,

As usual, he is again incorrect. And obviously resorts to irrational arguments which he knows are void of the reality of the situation. Follow closely…it may take a bit of thinking to undo the 50 years of a distorted and envious view of the world. And his childish sense of reason.

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UNM students, especially those in philosophy and logic courses: for examples of rhetorical fallacies like the “straw man” argument, false dilemmas, and especially ad hominem look no further: the postings of “damian” will suffice.

(Incorrect facts too).

Yup, ol’ Damian “I stand by my statements” attacking a member of the UNM faculty.

He calls a Regents’ Professor of Biology a liar and thief. He stands by his attacks – while hiding behind an anonymous post. How brave.

Speak for yourself. I do not reveal my name or my job solely because of you (and those just like you). I do have plenty of people (UNM alumnus) who are on the opposite end of the debate with me—they know my name, what I look like, who I am.

I don’t lie, but I have to protect my identity from people just like you. You are untrustworthy and an
“ends justify the means” type of person.

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Those on the opposite end actually post here regularly, therefore I do not lie. But I don’t really expect you to understand that.

Okay, you’re right. I am just an insignificant ass-clown with no real ideals or integrity just a head full of bad dope and libshit propoganda and a high school mentality. I’m sorry.

I wouldn’t say or think such things.

However, I simply do not understand the obsession with other peoples lives. You harshly criticize all those (Tea Parties, Rand) individuals that simply want to be left alone. That simply want to keep their money and be idiots if they choose. Isn’t it our right to try to fight for such things. To be free of coercion?

I wonder if Damian actually pens the fake “mea culpa” posts himself – the message posted today (July 29) at 9:33 a.m. by “Lawrence” was not written by me, naturally; “ass-clown” is not a part of my vocabulary. I never heard it before I read it frequently here at dailylobo.com. If this Web site had a better search engine, we could tell who actually uses this phrase.

Of course, I have never posted personal insults on this site; yet I am the one accused of ad hominem attacks. Weird. (Now if someone’s feelings are hurt because I harshly criticized a philosophy they choose to follow, that person is just too sensitive).

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