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Floridians should take action to stop Quran burning
Editor,
There are times that call for words and there are times that call for action. The Qur’an burning scheduled by Rev. Terry Jones on Saturday is a time that calls for action. If this event is permitted to occur, the effect will be catastrophic. There is only a minute minority of the citizens of this country who support this event. The vast majority of us must not remain passive as this minute minority of us commits an act that we do not sanction and that will have severe detrimental effects for us all, all over the world.
There is still time for enough people to occupy the small church in Gainesville, Florida and prevent this event from taking place, by seizing the copies of the Qur’an that Rev. Terry Jones is planning to burn and taking them to a safe place and ensuring that not one copy of the Quran is burned. It is imperative that this be done to demonstrate to the world that we, in the United States, are not religious bigots that commit acts in the name of a god we have created to placate our egos.
If I were in Florida, I would immediately begin organizing enough people to prevent any burning of Qur’ans. Since I am in New Mexico, not Florida, I implore critically thinking people in Florida, who desire what is best for this country, and the world, to do what is required to prevent the burning on a single copy of the Qur’an.
Robert Gardiner
Community member
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Muslims burning Bibles
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Muslims burn Bibles (and worse) ALL THE TIME!
Just Google “Muslims burning Bibles”
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Reaction? Christians turn the other cheek.
Free speech… defend it, or lose it.
Anti-jihadist
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Pastor Jones isn’t the first performance artist to express himself through with an Inferno. A thought experiment: How long before Salvador Dali’s “blasphemous” caricature of Mohammed burning in hell is expunged from art history classes? How about Auguste Rodin? or Gustave Dore?
Each of these artists caricatured Mohammed’s roasting in Hell— as related in Dante’s trilogy “The Divine Comedy” [Inferno XXVIII, 19-42]. http://zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/dantes_inferno/
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The same forces that repeatedly plot to destroy the fresco of Dante’s Inferno in Bologna’s Church of San Petronio remain at work today.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2205263.stm
And if academia is unwilling to stand in solidarity with Terry Jones, what’s to stop the global Taliban from silencing any and every expression Muslims deem “offensive”? Archived depictions of Mohammed serve as a poignant reminder that such imagery has been part of Western AND ISLAMIC culture since the Middle Ages— and serve as a resource for those interested in defending free expression.
NEA
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Terry Jones’ big mistake?
He didn’t request a grant from the NEA first.
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Free expression clerics will NEVER forgive that heresy.
Steven
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It is a sad state of affairs when the architects/cheerleaders/war profiteers of our fruitless, bloodly, unneccessary, unconstitutional mideast wars implore this pastor to stop burning the Qur’an because it will “endanger the troops”.
If Clinton, Gen “Betray Us”, and the Nobel Peace prize winning consititutional scholar were concerned about the troops, they would have brought them home a long time ago.
Anti-hypocrisy
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The Bible burning scheduled annually by Saudi religious police is a time that calls for action. If this event is permitted to occur AGAIN, Robert’s hypocrisy will be catastrophic to his ego. The vast minority of the citizens of Saudi Arabia support Bible burning. The small majority who don’t must not remain passive as the vast majority of Saudis commit an act that Robert does not sanction and that will have severe detrimental effects for Robert’s ego, all over the world.
There is still time for enough Saudis to occupy the city of Mecca and prevent this event from taking place, by seizing copies of the Bible that Saudi religious police are planning to burn and taking them to a safe place and ensuring that not one copy of the Bible is burned. It is imperative that this be done to demonstrate to the world that Robert is not a hypocrit that allows others to commit acts that offend Robert’s exquisitely sensitive ego.
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Of course, if Robert were in Mecca, his efforts to immediately begin organizing enough people to prevent any burning of Bibles would result in his arrest and expulsion. Since Robert is not in Mecca, he should implore critically thinking people in Saudi Arabia, who desire what is best for the world, to do what is required to gratify Robert’s ego and prevent the burning on a single copy of the Bible.
Good plan!
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@Steven: If the main objective is to avoid endangering the troops, Steven suggests unconditional surrender. On that theory, you know what would really stop the terrorists’ ability to endanger Americans? If Americans submitted to Islam and adopted Sharia law!
psst
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i don’t think anyone was suggesting trying to use judicial means to stop this. just suggesting that besides not serving the purpose it was purported to address, it could have negative consequences for our american troops, otherwise def. sec. Gates wouldn’t have called. it doesn’t even begin to do anything about the issue in NY(as the imam has said it won’t affect the mosque being built) which is why terry jones said he was going to burn the korans. thusly it can only be seen a christian attack on islam. as you said “muslims burning bibles” christ said to turn the other cheek. how is this turning the other cheek? i don’t remember a part at the end where he said, “unless they’re trying to build a mosque at ground zero.” also by your reasoning, ‘christians’ rape kids all the time. I haven’t heard anyone say jones doesn’t have the right to do this, only that he’s a jackass for doing so, like your mouthy friend at the bar that gets your group into an unnecessary fight when all you wanna do is have a good time.
God Protect me of your followers
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That pastor just was trying to get more clients to his business(the church).
“Religion is the opiate of the people”
psst
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of which he has thirty, there are more people in most of those crazy mormon cults. its become more than just an opiate, its brainwashing people. its ruining the world for the rest of us.
“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and if that doesn’t work, burn their holy books or show up at their funerals with derogatory posters.” -me“When the earth is dying there shall arise a new tribe of all colours and all creeds. This tribe shall be called The Warriors of the Rainbow and it will put its faith in actions not words.” – Hopi Prophecy –
Dirge
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Muslims absolutely burn the bible! I’ve not once heard an individual in a Muslim state, say, “we need action from the authorities to prevent the bible burning!” I’m sick and tired of this double standard! Here’s a plan instead of hiding on the DL, protest!
psst
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@dirge no said that some people that claim to be muslim don’t burn bibles. just like some people that claim to be christians(catholic priests and mormon wackos alike) RAPE CHILDREN!!! and no one said that its was wrong to burn a bible/koran, just that in this case its unnecessarily inflammatory. i only have one standard for all religions, and it goes like this:
The more people you put together, the more collectively stupid they become, and thus more easily mislead. Therefore the true path of religious adherence is travelled alone. I attend the non-denominational church for one.
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the problem with christianity and islam alike is that they think that they are the only correct religion and everyone else is misguided or evil or stupid and must be converted or killed. leave your crap out of the rest of our lives.
psst
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that should read, “no one said that…”
Jesus in jar of urine?
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But this was “art” and funded by the National Endowment for the Arts!
A crucifix made of elephant dung!
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Crosses torn down, vandalized, spray painted, banned, and on and on!
Churches burned!
Christians murdered in Arab countries!
Arab Muslims murdered for converting to Christianity!
Bibles burned!
Those entering Arab countries with Bibles are jailed and/or killed!
Bibles burned by our State Department in Afghanistan.
“Legally able to build the Mosque at Ground Zero! Freedom of Religion!”
“Mosque must be built or else there will be violence!”
“LEGALLY able to burn Korans! Freedom of Religion!”
“Perverts in San Francisco attempt to receive communion!”
“Nativity scenes banned!”
“‘Christmas’ removed from everywhere!”
“Immaculate Church, in downtown Abq, vandalized with red paint!”
So, I would propose getting NEA funds for my art project: Three toilets stacked on top of each other and overflowing with Korans! Sounds like a great final art project! “It’s art man!”
Hollywood movies love trashing Christians/Jesus.
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A Gay Jesus.
Jesus and Mary Magdalene were lovers and had a child.
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Mary was messing around and got pregnant.
Tom Hanks made millions on his theories!
Where’s the MohamMAD movies showing he was raping a seven year old girl?
No Muslim jokes! Have you noticed that the comedy shows like Leno and Letterman don’t tell Obama jokes?
No cartoons!
No books!
No Movies!
No images of the great “rapist!”
RELIGION FIRST OR COUNTRY FIRST!
LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tim Furnish
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At this point, one could argue that Jones should go through with the burning of some Qur’ans just to demonstrate that 1) an American has First Amendment rights independent of threats and rent-a-mobs in the Middle East and South Asia; and 2) a Christian does not have to abide by the politically correct shibboleth that the Qur’an is a holy book. Most media analysts do not give this second point the justice it deserves, bending over backwards as they do (almost as far as the Obama Administration) to present the Islamic perspective in a positive light.
As a Christian, I do not accept that Muhammad received revelation from God, for many reasons, most saliently that he and his “revelation” deny (in Sura 4:157) the key doctrine of my, and 2.3 billion other Christians’, faith: the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, to atone for the entire human race’s sins. That does not mean Christians should run out to buy a Qur’an and toss it into the fireplace—but neither does it mean that we have to pay Muslim-mandated obeisance to its alleged “holiness,” either.
Anti-supremacist
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[passt sneered: “in this case its unnecessarily inflammatory”]
Naturally, when George Soros’ pro-jihad rent-a-mobs commit gutter arson (and worse) it’s NEVER considered “unnecessarily inflammatory” by the Leftist clerics of free expression.
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Enter the Leftist-fascist Hall of Shame and recall what arson and hate (masquerading as “peace” protest) looks like.
http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame
Own it, Leftists.
Phillip Howel
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Many times I have heard Catholic’s referred to as idolatry worshipers because of the statutes and pictures. If I understand the position of Islam correctly, they believe a book that has their religious words is sacred, as is the absence of a painting or drawing of Mohamed, meaning any depiction is a sacrilege. Does this sound like idolatry worship?
After all, a book that has cooking recipes is just a book, made from plants. Print the words of Judea Christian belief or drawings of Moses, Jesus and the followers and it is still just a book: a bible. But, print the words of Mohammad on those pages and it becomes something sacred, something to worship. Is this not idolatry?
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Would Islam be a religion of love if they held non-believers in the same esteem as a book?
Anti-desecration
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[urine: “So, I would propose getting NEA funds for my art project:”]
It’s been done… but (again) it’s not accetable speech until the elitist clerics annoint you with an NEA grant.
http://zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/extreme_mohammed/islam_3.jpg
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It should go without saying that decrecration of Christian, Hindu and Buddhist symbols are regular occurence in the Ummah.
The Buddha called— he’d like his Bamiyan monuments back.
Jed Carty
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Could we just start a ‘burn a holy book day’ this saturday? enough christian groups try to push bibles on everyone on campus that it would be easy to collect plenty for everyone to burn something. The Buddhist group that I have seen on campus gives out the little introduction book for free, it is not quite the holy book but we can pretend. Also the Principia Discordia is available for free online, but would have to be printed, maybe we could get some donations to help with the printing costs. I think that everyone is going about this all wrong, they are making a huge deal out of burning a few Qur’ans and then saying it is no big deal by comparing the actions of a few crazy Americans to the actions of a few crazy people scattered around the rest of the world. Why not compare the actions of a few crazy Americans to the actions of the rest of the people in the US? Holy books are generally printed on paper that works wonderfully for rolling your own cigarettes and with how many groups will just hand you a bible for free many poor college students just get a bible from the local jesus pushers and buy some lose rolling tobacco. Plenty of holy books get burned like this, so why not just publicize that? The danger is making the crazies (both in Florida and the rest of the world) think that they are something special and have influence. So burn all the Qur’ans you want, it is not special treatment of Islam anymore than using a bible as rolling paper is special treatment of Christianity. Does anyone want to celebrate ‘burn a holy book day’ with me tomorrow?
@Jed
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Jed may have a career in the Saudi religious police.
“Saudi Arabia Desecrates Hundreds of Bibles Annually”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1410190/posts
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If not, they may be hiring in Hamastan;
“Christians in Gaza Fear for Their Lives as Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses”
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/285123/christians_in_gaza_fear_for_their_lives.html?cat=9
Don’t waste your Islamo-supremacism advocacy talents.
zzzzzzzzz
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What a bunch of completely moronic responses from both sides. Get real you idiots.
if you want a good laugh, just picture this moron jones without that ridiculous mustache hiding his face.
Thanks anti-desecration
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http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame Everyone must see this!
I saw a program last night that had a NAACP representative as a guest and he was promoting a website to watch the Teabag movement for racism. He gave only one example of a man wearing a “racist” t-shirt at a teabag rally. No picture? Thousands of people with cameras and no picture?
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Take a look at these pictures from zombietime. Paste and copy link to address bar, then press enter. These photos show the real movement who influencing the White House.
Where’s the NAACP? Where’s the outrage!
Eugene
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Calm down.
First, no one is making a movie about a gay Jesus. That’s an Internet hoax:
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/gayjesus.asp
See? You can’t believe everything you read on the Internet. And the crucifix in urine photograph was not directly funded by the NEA:
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/Speech/arts/topic.aspx?topic=art_funding
And Tom Hanks was the actor* in a movie about Christ and Mary Magdalene, it was not his “theory.” The movie was based on something called a “book” – and it’s a work of fiction.
So calm down, before you get HYSTERICAL and type IN ALL CAPS AND GO CRAZY, AAAAAGGGGGHHHH!!!!!
Jed Carty
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How is any of what I said in anyway advocating ‘Islamo-supremacism’? I said that do not give any of the religions a special place and some how I am advocating Islam? How is calling all of them (and by ‘them’ I mean religious groups) crazies advocating a specific one? I am actually very interested in how you decided that I was advocating any religion.
@Jed
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[Jed sneered: “Could we just start a ‘burn a holy book day’ this saturday?”]
Islamo-supremacists are all about book burning. Good luck with that career ambitions. Don’t forget to include Das Kapital and Mein Kampf (very popular Leftist holy books overseas).
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