People, lets get one thing straight, ABORTION is NOT the problem. Abortion is nothing more then political wrangling. The issue IS un-wanted pregnancy. Prevent the pregnancy and the abortion is a non-issue. Preventing pregnancy can not be legislated or regulated. Abortion can, so it becomes politicized, and battle lines are drawn. And because of this, the Republican Party is all but dead because the proponents of “pro-life” are also the antagonists for birth control. The politico would have you believe this is a battle between Pro Life and Pro Choice, it is not. It is a fight between Pro-choice and Anti-choice. Does a woman have the right to choose? And, by the way, any man that chooses to practice un-protected sex gives up his right to have ANY say as to what that woman chooses to do about HER unwanted pregnancy. Before everyone gets their shorts in a wad, I didn’t not say he forfeited his responsibility; he is still obligated to support (financially in necessary) that woman’s decision. So people, if you want the abortion issue to go away, stop having unwanted pregnancies.

Their arguments can be summarized in two separate words,

Potential
Christianity

The only think that anyone needs to think about is, whose child is it? Yes, a man commits his seed and, potentially, his name, but whose child is it really? Who goes through nine months of bearing the child and many hours of the most excruciating pain to give birth to the child? The woman does. She is the one who has to decide whether or not to keep that child because it is her body and her life on the line. She is the deciding factor and should be the only one to be consulted in the matter. Things such as rape, getting pregnant when you’re very young and even an accidental pregnancy happen and it should be only the potential mother’s choice and decision. No offense guys, but since you can opt out of any responsibility at all, and many men do, I feel you shouldn’t have much, if any of a say.

1. If a woman was raped, it’s neither hers nor the baby’s fault. Why would you kill it?
2. A few protests never gets anyone anywhere.
3. No one is directing violence against them.
4. The photos have everything to do with aborted babies, because well, they were ABORTED!
5. The photos are to make people think twice about killing an innocent life. You have no valid reasoning for anything you’re saying.
6. It’s definitely settled. When it has a heartbeat, it’s alive. If it’s alive because of the sperm and egg of humans, it’s definitely human. Again, where is your evidence of any of this? You’re a student, not a doctor.
7. She’s not only a murderer, but she’s also a moron. Who gets abortions before they realize they’re pregnant? Irresponsible people, maybe?

It’s no more the woman’s choice to end the life of a baby than it is to end the life of her husband. Why is it that if she kills her husband, it’s a crime, but if she kills an innocent life, it’s perfectly fine? Pro choice is pro ignorance.

Even though I never really looked into this issue in detail before, I’ve always considered myself pro-life, because it is my belief that everyone, I mean EVERYONE, has a right to life, whether it may be actual or potential. After talking to people from both sides of the arguement, it became apparent that the whole topic came down to one overlooked point in this whole discussion: pregnancy. I can understand the issue of rape and a probable death from giving birth, however, when a couple agree to have sexual intercourse, the woman has already agreeed to 1) allow the fertus 3) agreed to carry that child for nine months, and 4) agreed to go through the pains that come in the end. If you weren’t raped, if it won’t kill you, than there’s no other logical reason that baby shouldn’t stay with you and live inside you for nine months. Don’t take away someone’s future because you saw them as “uneccessary” when you failed to take precautions with your partner.

Pro-choice? Sure…here is the choice people make: to have sex or not to have sex. By making the choice to have sex, you are making the choice to be responisble with your mind and you body. If you can make the choice to have sex then you should be responsible enough to protect yourself from unwanted pregnancy and if not be able to live with the consequences of irresponsible behavior. It is not the baby’s fault if they are born to irresponsible parents, and should not have to die for a decision that was not handled correctly. If you can not take care of the child let someone who wants a baby have it.

In response to Adam0118, your point in #7 is totally off base. The writer used the term ‘spontaneous abortion’ which is the medical term for a miscarriage. Considering that miscarriages are a natural occurrence and are completely out of the control of a woman, calling her a murderer and a moron, is probably one of the most uninformed things I have heard anyone say recently.

I have a friend who had a miscarriage 6 months into her pregnancy. She was extremely excited about having her baby, had gone out and spent thousands of dollars on preparing for her child, and due to NO FAULT OF HERS, lost her baby. Would you like to call her a murderous moron?

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Adam

1. If a weed grows in your yard, it’s neither yours nor the seed’s fault. Why would you kill it?

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Not only am I prochoice, I also believe that some abortions need to be mandatory. Support population control.

Anti-abortionists hold up pictures of third term abortions because they know that reason is not on their side. If reason were on their side, they would understandably hold up pictures of first term—where over 90% of abortions occur. They appeal to pure emotionalism, suspending reason.

Why is it that pro-choice people typically try to revert the argument back to doctor murders? I hate to break it to you, but bringing up the isolated cases of abortionists being murdered is a red herring. Nothing Justice For All had on their boards advocated utilitarian murders of doctors. Of course, it does happen once in a while, most recently the case of George Tiller, but it’s neither on the grand scale Allen would like to have to believe, nor is it endorsed by the vast majority of the pro-life movement. Furthermore, last September, there was a case of a man shooting a pro-life activist named James Pouillon. What I’m trying to say here is not to blame other sides for being out of control radicals, but to affirm what President Obama has said regarding Pouillon’s murder, that “whatever side of the abortion debate you’re on, violence is never the answer.”

By the way Mike, regarding your disgusting comment about masturbating in a towel, that’s not what “fundies” would consider “mass murdering [your] own children.” The way pro-life activists define life, in most cases, is as a fertilized egg. Love your bumper sticker wisdom though. “pro life is pro brainwash.” Ah, the eloquence.

As a pro-choice person, I feel that I must comment. Those who oppose abortion, don’t need to have one. Making it unsafe for a woman who does not share your beliefs is unAmerican. The person who is living and breathing as a “right to life”. The fetus a woman carries is not “a life” until it can exist outside the womb with little medical assistance. Yes, if we stop unwanted pregnancy by good contraceptive meausres, we would have little need for abortions. Another thing to consider is that we have almost overpopulated the planet and family size should be limited worldwide.

Why should a rape baby not be terminated? Why should the woman be forced to raise her rapist’s baby? Forcing the mother to go through with the pregnancy is like prolonging the rape.

In response to all of the above, and the letter to the editor:

I don’t believe I haven’t seen a comment that wasn’t aimed towards a “them.” The article itself is a perfect example of this Us and Them mentality, and, if you really want to get legalistic, an incitement to violence. The fact remains, that what the presenters of the disturbing monolith are doing is presenting their side, not going and killing everyone they think is immoral. Would you prefer they do the latter? Your letter implies, that if we agree with things like war, that we wage war on those who don’t, and if we want to clean up our streets, we go put on a cape and mask to shoot criminals left and right.

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I love the arm chair atheists coming out of the woodwork to jump on any opportunity to preach their dogma. These “anti-abortionists” are doing the job of the protector under Christ, defending those without a voice. I suspect that these atheists are merely the products of rebelling against parents for making them wake up early on Sunday mornings. Have they even considered that these abortion “doctors” (I wonder if you can actually get a MD in mass murder…) are taking the most precious thing from the most precious beings on the earth. I’d like to see the look on these poster’s faces when the doctor asks if they really want to keep the child when their wife is giving birth.

i have one sentence to say. if you dont have the ability to carry a baby your opinion is null and void.

Many of the comments misstate or ignore the fundamental fact of an abortion: It is intended to end a life and then remove the remains from the womb.
Why the pregnancy has happened, how responsible or irresponsible the people responsible for the creation of this new life are does not change the settled science that at fusion (conception) a new unique human life exists. All of who we are is determined then: Our gender, hair and eye color, DNA, etc. We are today what we were at that moment. The only difference between each of us at day 25 post fusion and day 2500 post fusion is our size and age. Our heart is beating, brain activity is near measurable, our blood is bringing nourishment to our cells; we are growing just as that 6 ½ year old (2500 days) is still growing. We are not a potential human at fusion, we are a human.
Damain, less than 90% of abortion occur in the first trimester according to the Guttmacher Institute. But why does the age of the child matter? Isn’t dead dead regardless of age? Do we say a killing is less because the dead is 70 years old or 7 years old?
Doris, you said, “…exist outside the womb with little medical assistance” apparently to justify your denial that we are a human while still in the womb. What is a six year old who has a life threatening brain tumor, an adult who suffers a debilitating stroke or any of the many medial problems that make us dependant on others? Are we less human because we need…… ?
Jack would the world be a better place if mandatory abortion existed when you were in your mom’s womb and she was required to get rid of you?
Mike, you could have asked those folks for proof of authenticity. Here is a source of pictures that state their source: http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/pictures.html … What is the difference between that aborted 7 week old little boy and you— other than the growth that comes with age?
In my conversations with abused kids who were adopted into loving families, when asked if they wished they had been aborted, the answer is always NO. Sort of the idea that bad must happen so we can recognize good and appreciate what good is. Abortion is always bad news for the unborn, it is also bad news for the woman whose child is dead. The psychological damage is well documented as is the increased risk of difficult pregnancies and premature birth. If we really love our women and care about our teens, why would we encourage them to have an unnecessary procedure that has so much harm attached?

In response to Dio Brando:
Could you please explain to my why you falsely labeled all pro-choice advocates as atheists? I myself am both pro-choice and Christian (though I know that may be hard for your pea brain to comprehend). Sir, please do one thing for me. As a favor, do some research before you start running your mouth, and try to sound at least somewhat educated, that way you can prove once and for all that not every Christian is a self righteous, ignorant bigot.

I love how all these guys come out of the wood work to tell all of us what should happen regarding an event that will NEVER happen to them. Guys, if your worried that the woman youe having sex with will terminate an unwanted pregnacy, don’t have sex with her.
I am quite convinced that G_d will in fact forgive us for preventing an unwanted pregnancy long before forgiving us for terminating an unwanted pregnancy. Little boys need to grow up and take on some adult responsibility.

“It’s no more the woman’s choice to end the life of a baby than it is to end the life of her husband.”

Yes it is, if her husband is living wholly within her body and living off of it against her will. Moreso if her husband has no ability to live unaided outside the woman – he is no longer a separate entity, but a part of her body.

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A refreshing comment might be “there is no such thing as an accidental pregnancy”. Sure there are a lot of stupid or ignorant women out there begging to get laid, however, I accidentally got pregnant is one of the oldest lies in the book. If any of you guys bought this line, I emplore you to wise up.

There are “I was too drunk to manage my body”, and there are “I’m to stupid” and there are a few “I just don’t really care” explanations; but aside from rape that’s pretty much it boys and girls.

I changed my mind. Irresponsible people and people that are too dumb or poor to use contreceptives should be forced to have babies and increase the population or irresponsible/dumb people.

Dio Brando,

What perplexes me is your inbred idea that abortion is incompatible with theism. It is as idiotic as the idea that evolution is incompatible with theism as it fails to acknowledge the massive amount of theists in America that accept both.

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Is it so hard to consider both sides of the arguement? The complete outlaw, as well as freedom, of abortion, is inhumane. After all, is it wrong for a woman with 3 children to have an abortion when, were she to carry that child to term, all 5 of them would starve? At the same time, abortion as a form of conveniant birth control is to be abhorred. If you take the morality out of the issue and look at the logic, it is easy to see the middle path.

I disagree with anyone who says that the men should not have a say in the abortion of a child. Yes the mother does carry the child for nine months but she does not conceive the child alone. It takes two people to make a child and those two people should consult with one another in aborting one. It is a selfish act for a woman to decide that a man does not want to have a part in a child’s life that they have helped conceive.