DID YOU CALL THE FBI? DID THEY RAID THE CRUSADE OFFICES? THIS IS SERIOUS AND I DEMAND THAT THEY DO INVESTIGATE AND IF THEY FIND ANY EVIDENCE, INCLUDING EMAILS WRITTEN BY PROVEN CRUSADE MEMBERS AND NOT A BOGUS YAHOO OR GMAIL ACCOUNT WHERE MICKEY MOUSE COULD HAVE AN ADDRESS! I ALSO WOULD DEMAND OF THE FBI TO CHECK PHONE RECORDS AND EMAILS OF WEINSTEIN, BROWN AND THE STUDENTS IN CLASS!!!!!!!!! AFTER THAT, THEY CAN GO TO THE PEACE AND JUSTICE CENTER AND CHECK THEIR RECORDS TOO!!!

“Despite the problems that surround it, the lecture provided students the opportunity to see a real local activist, Brown said.
‘I hope that it motivates them to really get active in something that they’re passionate about,” Brown said. “Peace Studies is not a practice of passivity. It’s active work.’”

“ACTIVE” IS A COMMUNIST CODE WORD FOR A “SOLDIER IN THEIR ARMY.” Brown’s class is nothing but INDOCTRINATION AND BRAINWASHING and a blame the United States first and always!!!

“Peace” groups support many WARRING factions somewhere and they legitimize the actions of those groups! The PEACE STUDIES CLASS will surely tell you which factions to support! FIFTY BUCKS THAT THEY “TEACH” TO SUPPORT HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH, AND BLAME ISRAEL/U.S.!

WEINSTEIN’S DAUGHTER AMBER: “‘I sleep with a gun under my pillow,’ Amber said.” WATCH OUT FOR THE CAMPUS CRUSADERS? AN ROTC? JESUS FREAK?

BOGUS CLAIM IF I’VE EVER HEARD ONE!!!!!!!!

GO FIGURE?

:P

Ask Ann Coulter about the “death threats!”

Mr. Weinstein was invited to my Peace Studies class to talk of the importance of the separation of church and state (especially in terms of the military) and his family’s experiences in dealing with this issue over the past few years. This is an issue that pervades not just the U.S. military but that of many other countries in the world.

He was also invited as a local activist (who has been nominated for the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize) to show that regular people can be involved in any number of issues that they are passionate about. Contrary to the opinion of a couple of letter writers above, activism is practiced by ANYONE who is trying to make the world, or their community, or their own lives better by taking an active role in something, anything, at all (note that we invited a conservative military man to speak in our peace studies class… this should show that the impetus is on peace as an action, not as a doctrine.).

Members of the ROTC staff (and student body) were invited to this lecture, as was the general population of the university. We had quite a number of guests sitting in my class in addition to the regular students present. (You should also note that we often have a very diverse set of students for these classes that include ROTC members, conservative religious studies majors, and many others that don’t ‘fit’ the image I imagine most of you have of a typical Peace Studies student)

In regards to the death threats/e-mails; Mr. Weinstein and his organization are the only ones who received them and I am sure you can contact him directly if you would like to try to verify their existence. His organization has been in contact with federal security agencies for several years now in dealing with such threats and the presence of security is common at any event he attends as a result (a minor error in the article is that the security guards were un-armed). He speaks out because he believes in everyone’s right to religious freedom. To date, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation has received over 15,000 reports of some type of religious harassment by U.S. military members, most of whom are Christian to begin with, so it seems the issue is real and present.

To Steve Chavez, I’ll take your $50 bet at any time… In my class, the students are taught to think for themselves using critical thinking skills and we in no way have ever supported the work of any terrorist organization, anywhere in the world. We DO teach students to understand why terrorism exists, why violence exists, and we show them that there are ALWAYS non-violent solutions to problems at all levels.

I invite any of you, all of you, to take a Peace Studies class sometime… You might be surprised at what you learn.

Desi Brown – Peace Studies Instructor and American Studies Graduate Student

Dr. Gary Habermas’ research in this area contains numerous non-Bible based historical resources. See http://www.garyhabermas.com/ for a full bibliography, specifically the several extra-Biblical, non-Christian references in his book http://www.garyhabermas.com/books/historicaljesus/historicaljesus.htm#ch9 on this site.

Thank you, Professor Brown!
John Hoben

BROWN: “To Steve Chavez, I’ll take your $50 bet at any time… In my class, the students are taught to think for themselves using critical thinking skills and we in no way have ever supported the work of any terrorist organization, anywhere in the world. We DO teach students to understand why terrorism exists, why violence exists, and we show them that there are ALWAYS non-violent solutions to problems at all levels.”

“Why terrorism exists?” GEORGE BUSH OF COURSE!

DON’T YOU THINK BROWN WOULD TELL HIS CAPTIVE STUDENTS, WHO “are taught to think for themselves using critical thinking skills and we in no way have ever supported the work of any terrorist organization, anywhere in the world?”

IN THE NAME OF DIVERSITY, WILL YOU LET ME LECTURE YOUR STUDENTS ON CROOKED GROUPS WHO USE “PEACE” TO FOOL THE GULLIBLE AND NAIVE? I’M PRETTY SURE THEY WOULD BE SURPRISED THAT MANY OF TODAY’S PEACE GROUPS WERE A PRODUCT OF 80’S SOVIET KGB AND OUR COMMUNIST PARTY USA BRAINWASHING AND PROPAGANDA! I’LL TIE IN THE USE OF THE REAL FARCE: PEACE STUDIES! I’LL TELL THEM TO NOD “YES” TO ALL YOUR LECTURES SO THEY CAN GET AN “A!” I IF I TOOK YOUR CLASS AND USED MY CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS, I’D GET A “F!” F FOR FASCIST RIGHT?

HERE IS THE LINK TOO!

http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/2007_03_14_archive.html

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 14, 2007

“Meanwhile, another turncoat on the issue, State Senator Carlos Cizneros, a co-sponsor of Ortiz’s resolution who also surprised Ortiz and other resolution backers by voting to kill the bill, offered another explanation altogether. “I didn’t vote to kill the bill,” he said in an interview days later. “I voted to send it back to committee because the votes weren’t there to pass it. I didn’t want to see it die, so I voted against it.”

“That’s pretty weasily,” commended Desi Brown, an aide to Sen. Ortiz. “The bill was killed and it cannot be brought back to the Senate floor, unless Sen. Cizneros knows something about senate rules that we don’t know.”

A third Democratic turncoat, Sen. David Ulibarri, failed to return calls to explain his reason from voting against the resolution after earlier backing it in committee.

Ortiz aide Brown said only two of the nine Democrats voting against the resolution represent majority Republican districts, a situation which might explain their taking a negative position on the resolution. Others of the nine represent fairly conservative Democratic districts, but of course, the Bush presidency is unpopular among Democratic voters of all political stripes, and among independents too.

Brown says that prior to the vote killing the resolution, five of the nine Democratic senators who voted with Republicans had been seen conversing privately, suggesting a coordinated strategy to kill the measure.

Brown and impeachment movement activists in the state insist that days before the debacle in the Senate, they had clear support for passage among senate Democrats.

Brown says he does not have evidence of any pressure on senate Democrats, but speculation is focused on Gov. Bill Richardson, an announced candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, and on Sen. Jeff Bingaman.”

DO NOT TAKE BROWN’S COMMUNIST INDOCTRINATION CLASSES AND SURELY DON’T WASTE YOUR TIME GETTING A DEGREE IN THIS WORTHLESS MAJOR!!!

Thanks for your query,

Desi B.

WORLD CAN’T WAIT

305 W. Broadway, #185
New York, NY
10013

Phone :866-973-4463
Email :
info@worldcantwait.org
URL: Website

Revolutionary communist movement that stages protests against the Bush administration
Organizes college and high-school students

Founded in June 2005 by Charles Clark Kissinger, a longtime leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party, World Can’t Wait (WCW) is a direct action movement seeking to organize “people living in the United States to take responsibility to stop the whole disastrous course led by the Bush administration.” The organization asserts that removing President Bush from office “will be like removing a forty-pound tumor from your gut.” WCW vows “to send Bush, Cheney and the rest of those fascists packing. … After that, there are people in ‘World Can’t Wait’ who are working for everything from reforming the Democratic party, to building a 3rd party, to revolution.”

ARE YOU IN THE REVOLUTIONARY COMMUNIST PARTY MR. BROWN OR ARE YOU STILL IN THE CLOSET EVEN THOUGH I JUST EXPOSED YOU?

Yes, I VOLUNTEER with State Senator Jerry Ortiz y Pino and have done so for several years in helping him with a number of issues – mostly related to attempts at improving the status of the poor and minorities in the state of New Mexico via positive (read: active) methods. The Impeachment issue is one of many that I assisted Senator Ortiz y Pino on, and if you were to read the text of that resolution, you will see that it was a quite legitimate attempt to simply get the U.S. Congress to take a closer look at the President and others in their (potentially impeachable) actions leading up to a war that has ultimately claimed the lives of thousands of Americans and possibly over a million Iraqis since. It is something I am proud to say I was a part of and it is important to remember that a significant (if not majority) portion of the population of the U.S. believed that a more in depth investigation was warranted at that time. This doesn’t seem extremist to me…

I would also like for you to know that to this day I have never mentioned this resolution in my class nor do my students know about it (unless they have ‘googled’ my name as well). This is because I believe that EACH student is capable of coming up with their own interests and issues to understand more fully through the readings and research opportunities they are given.

I do enjoy how you feel I am a Communist and am trying to indoctrinate my students into their essentially failed mechanisms of leadership. I don’t know that I have ever met an actual ‘communist’ in my life, though I could be wrong. I am however a fan of having as many voices as possible involved in the political and social processes that affect the everyday lives of regular (ie poor/minority) citizens of the world. To me that means the reduction of power of the two party system the U.S. is stuck in and the increased involvement of the populace in making important decisions that affect others. Yes, even YOU should have a voice, as should I and the students in my classes…

I’ll tell ya what, sign up for a Peace Studies class Steve, I would enjoy your commentary as we work to understand many of the problems that humanity currently face and find some way of trying to deal with them. I’ll bet ya $50 you wouldn’t get an F either if you do your work in the class.

Namaste’

Desi B.

I know of mr. weinstein’s allegations, and I think he is exagerating the issue and has an axe to grind against christians, but that is just me.

The only way we as a people can learn from the violence of our present and the mistakes of our past is to truly try to understand multiple points of view first, and then engage in the difficult process of reconciliation that is often necessary to end the cycles of violence that permeate each of our lives so completely. Perhaps I am naive, but I actually think that if there were a greater sense of equality in our world at all levels, there would be less violence in it as well.

As I mentioned to Mr. Chavez, YOUR voice is an important one to be heard if you feel ‘threatened’ by others. They need to hear it, just as you need to hear their words. We all have choices that can be made – continue with the killing and violence that some seem to think is a solution – or figure out other ways that are perhaps a bit less bloody. We can only do that by starting a dialogue and seeing where it goes.

Namaste’

Desi B.

My understanding of the various wars in the last century were caused by arrogant and corrupt leadership and vested, corrupt interests by political and banking and corporate groups persuing dominance to further their own best interests, dragging their countrymen along with them. This is where an objective news media is imperative for the free flow of OBJECTIVE information, not the partisan hacks who pass for the press today.

Ideology drives these fools and the rest of us spend our time arguing over talking points and revised histories and conspiracy theories, etc, etc.

Certainly we are merely human, and as such subject to all the weaknesses and foibles associated with being human as anyone versed in the classics of antiquity know. Throw in opposing political ideologies and it is a perfect storm and conflict, and, yes, violence is enivitable; indeed, some would say necessary. Sometimes total victory is necessary for peace, true peace. I would say most of the time, because evil not wiped out will rise again.

BTW. I may have mispoke. I do not “feel” threatened by progressive and lefties, etc. etc., I have been threatened by them, but i do not fear them. I do not fear jihadis. I don’t particularly like their beliefs, and can tolerate them and talk to them so long as they behave themselves. Once they cross the line though, it is no longer time to talk. I am willing to be reasonable and debate. Are they?

P.S. I’ve met Mikey Weinstein. I’m not surprised he was beaten up by roommates. He can be very obnoxious.

I will not go into detail about successful and lasting peace efforts – I hope someday you may be inspired to study about them on your own. Please do know that individuals, small groups, communities, religions, cultures, nations, and international organizations have all been HIGHLY successful at promoting peaceful actions from within and around themselves for hundreds if not thousands of years; arguably saving more lives and preventing more suffering than all of history’s military and similarly violent actions and reactions. This is not the kind of stuff taught in a conventional HS classroom, but it is real, and it is amazing in its effectiveness.

Chayal, you mention the idea of pacifism (not something I ever said and certainly not something we spend a lot of time on in my class…); and I challenge you to engage in dialogue with just about any group of peace activists. They are FAR from being pacifist in nature. I strongly believe that it takes far more courage, strength and knowledge to be a peace activist than it does to believe that a war can solve anyone’s problems. Peace is a means to an end, not the end itself.

Your understanding of recent wars is right on, and something that needs to be more clearly taught in our schools. Openness in our government, military, and corporate worlds would do much in allowing a better form of journalism to re-emerge from the dregs of what exists today. Tell me, do you Chayal or anyone else who is reading this, subscribe to an independent media source? Do any of you pay attention to who owns/controls the media?

Last, you speak of how evil will always arise and violence may be inevitable to deal with it. Tell me, when has a war (speaking strictly to the acts of violence committed in a war), truly brought about lasting ‘peace’ as you would like to call it? Before you or anyone else answers, look up the terms ‘positive peace’ and ‘negative peace’, and tell me if the end of WWII via the military defeat of Germany and Japan has truly resulted in less violence in the world than if they had been defeated in other ways?

I too, do not shrink from fear of anything, nor do most ‘peace activists’; I actively engage with those who disagree with me. Do you?

Desi B.