Mountain West girls soccer is hard core !

This story is HUGE and this chick is all over the internet looking like a deranged psychotic criminal. I kind of feel bad for what I’m sure she’s going through. Was it worth it Liz? and I loved you in Election.

Elizabeth Lambert’s unsportsman-like conduct during the soccer game between UNM and BYU was deplorable. I have to say in all my years of girls high school- and now college soccer I have never seen such aggressive conduct. I was horrified by her behavior. She should have been taken out of the game immediately. At this point suspension is not enough. The repetitive nature of her aggressive almost brutal behavior leads me to believe that this is not a behavioral aberration for her and that it IS indicative of her personality. She should be permanently dropped from the UNM soccer team. Had my daughter who plays college soccer in Denver acted in such a manner I would have pulled her from the game and taken her off the team permanently myself. I am disturbed by her behavior, but also by her coach’s lack of intervention. I am embarrassed for my sons who now attend UNM, my daughter who is an alumni, and horrified that her unconscionable actions have made national news via ESPN. After Loxley’s antics and UNM’s initial half-hearted action of a written reprimand , I have to wonder if any action would have been taken against Lambert had not the whole country been treated to replays of her behavior courtesy of ESPN. UNM’s sports reputation is already in shreds and the actions of this one player has further damaged our reputation hopefully not beyond repair. I hope that those who review and enforce sportsmanship -and mete out punishments for such behavior at UNM will take into careful consideration that Lambert’s actions of snapping that players head back by the ponytail, and intentionally kneeing the player in the face after the ball was out of reach of either player could have caused severe neck and spinal injuries leading to permanent paralysis. Review of the tape show her aggression- in most instances- was not in innocent pursuit of the ball, making her actions all the more reprehensible.

How the heck did something like this get past the officials and coaches? OK, one thing happens, but so many of those fouls deserved yellow or straight red cards.

While Lambert’s actions are not to be excused, has anyone thought about WHY she was playing dirty?? This is the result of pent up aggression caused by the other team as well.

Even if the officials never saw the infractions, the coaches are still responsible to expect good sportsmanship from their players. The coach should have removed Lambert from the game long before the hair pulling incident to remind her to be a good sport. A suspension means little considering the loss probably ended her season anyway. Maybe we should sell tickets for her and Locksley to go toe to toe and use the proceeds to pay for anger management classes for them.

In all of the highlights you could see that Lambert was “reacting” to the other teams players. Lambert got elbowed, and then elbowed back. Lambert got tugged, and she tugged back harder. No excuse for her reactions because they were bad. But she did not act like that for no reason.

This young lady should be “kicked” out of University of New Mexico period. The NCAA should ban her from ALL universtities and colleges.

If you think this is harsh…. I am sending this message from Kentucky. UNM is a great university. BUT, this incident has really destroyed the image. This Aw-crap has destroyed all the At-a-boys.

I really don’t think UNM AA has an understanding of the magnitude of this problem or ever updates their website. They are still playing [automatically] the soccer coach’s interview prior to the game/tournament. It is really strange.

Unfortunately, a good coach I am sure, will should lose her job.

Liz is NOT a quality student-athlete, and she proves it in this instance. Her actions clearly crossed the line of fair play and good sportsmanship- it’s called “no self control” or “bad decision”. Get her out of there.

That wasn’t a “ponytail pull” . .or a punch! Helen Gonzales told me so!

My cousin went to UNM and I know it’s a great school with coaches and athletes who deserve to be applauded for their commitment to academics and athletics, HOWEVER this girl is clearly deranged – I have enjoyed soccer all my life and supported my sister who was a varsity player by attending hundreds of games but I’ve NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS – the girl was OUT OF CONTROL in ways I’ve never seen in MALE soccer, much less female – if she’s a scholarship athlete she should have here scholarship rescinded and she should be banned for next year until she takes some serious ANGER MANAGEMENT classes – unm had better WAKE up because these scences are being played all over the place and it would be wrong to drag down a fine school because of the antics of one clearly out of control young women – no retaliation of the type she displayed was warranted, I’ve seen guys soccer matches where brawls broke out which were less violent – absolutely disgraceful.

Wow. I just saw the ESPN video and that girl is crazy. How Lobos soccer let this continue, I don’t know, but this game does not seem like an isolated incident.

The coach and referee(s) should be suspended as well.

The funny thing is how she says this is an exception for her, but over and over and over, she’s being violent with opposing players. It’s hard to imagine this is the first game where she behaved this way. Sorry our athletic dept had to have this happen to get national attention, but her suspension is a good first step.

shes hot!!!

If that were my daughter being assulted I would press charges against her. How unfortunate young girls have to see this – women they look up to as role models!

I’m not a UNM alum or a soccer fan. Saw this on ESPN, was appalled, and decided to take a second look on the net.
Number 15 obviously engaged in rough play, but when you watch closely, its also obvious that she was reacting except for the tripping incident that brought on the yellow flag, and that wasn’t flagrant.
It seems to me that the video says more about BYU’s lack of sportmanship than about this young woman. I think this video will get a lot of views. UNM supporters need to get people to look closely and not just get on the bandwagon in condemning this person.

She should be kicked off the team for good. That is quite possibly one of the worst displays of sportsmanship i’ve ever seen in womens sports…ever. Why did the ref and coach not do anything about this They should be fired for not doing anything about it.

Not an alumni of New Mexico but if I was I would be outraged even more. Wow

Its a sad day for soccer in the U.S. is what this amounts too. All over the internet there are people writing idiotic comments that support her actions or justify her reactions. Oh, she was provoked. Oh, its a physical game. Oh, emotions run high sometimes. Gimme a break. This is exactly the kind of crap quality of soccer the U.S. DOESN’T need for publicity. Anyone who loves the game for its skill, for its creativity, for its sportsmanship, should feel outraged at the stuff that was captured on camera. No quality player would resort to the kind of actions that she took. No quality defender would have those attitudes on the pitch. What shame that had to be showcased on national T.V. I hope she never plays soccer again.

Keep it classy Lobo’s!!!!

Oh and by the way, Elizabeth Lambert says “This is in no way indicative of my character or the soccer player that I am.” Guess what? Too late. Wrong. You can’t take back your actions on the field. My coach has always said that you let your actions speak for themselves. No post-match soundbyte, no after-game analysis can supercede what you did, or rather in her case, what you didn’t do on the field.

I’m a referee. The comments above that this was merely “retaliation” are off base. Retaliation or not (and it was), any referee seeing her punch in the back would have immediately called a foul, probably would give a yellow card and could have given a red card. The punch in the face should certainly have resulted in a card, possibly red, no matter that the two players were fighting for the ball. The kicks to the player on the ground should have resulted in the game being stopped at the least for dangerous play, ‘should’ have been called a foul, and -depending in the antecedents – could have been a yellow card as well.

As to the ponytail pull, all I can say to her defenders is, “are you kidding?” A red card and a long suspension are the least of what should result from that action. That was perhaps one of the most dangerous, brutal and uncalled for fouls I’ve seen – ever. Officials should go back and look at other games that this young lady has played in to see if her violent behavior is characteristic of her play.

Regarding the referees. I don’t know when the punch or ponytail pull happened, but the punch to the face and the repeated kicks and bodyblocks on the ground happened around the ball and unless the video simply cut out something that the referee did call on those occasions, it’s unfathomable that nothing was called. If that is the case, the conference should be assessing the referees as well.

Anyone watching this video needs to ask themselves what they would do if that was their kid getting their hair ripped out and thrown to the ground. Just think if she had broke her neck…now are you all thinking she is justified in this crazy WWF style soccer playing?? She needs to be disciplined. She would go to jail for this thing on the street. If I was a parent of that girl, Liz wouldn’t see a field for the rest of her life.

This kind of stuff happens in sports all the time. In this particular case, the refs clearly let things get out of hand. This is the problem with sports like basketball and soccer, which are supposedly “non-contact” but in reality are not. One can give a serious hip check or elbow and it is supposedly “OK” and part of the game. Just don’t pull somebody’s hair or throw a punch because that is “bad”. The truth of the matter is that a solid hip check or an elbow can hurt as much, if not more, than a punch in the back can, but it’s allowed/ignored as part of getting position on the field.

This is exacerbated in the NCAA where a wide variety of refs allow for and different conferences engage in different levels of physical play. What can often happen is that a player who is typically less physical gets roughhoused by opponents in the supposedly “OK” behavior and ends up retaliating in the supposed “bad” behavior.

The BYU players involved in this were probably just amused they were able to get into this woman’s head.

Eventually these sports will either need to become truly non-contact, or they’ll need to adopt rules like football and hockey to define specifically what kind of contact is allowed and what will be penalized.

SMC—

your comments about refs really only apply to soccer in the U.S. You are right—there is a wide variety of refs—and thats why the refereeing in the U.S. is horrible. Most of these guys never even played let alone understand the game and its nuances. European soccer is about as well referred as possible and they have professionals that referee, whose livelihood depend on it, who train and goto school for it, who get fired if they are unfit or too fat and can’t keep up with the run of play, not just amateurs like they do here. Contact is never “okay”. Lets be accurate—“serious hipchecks and elbows” are NOT okay. They are only OK when the sub-par ref has either missed it or mis-interpreted the rules. Its generalized opinions about the sport of soccer like these which never permit it to be grown well in the U.S. Why must hockey and football rules be applied to soccer? Its such an american way of looking at things.

Suspend the UNM soccer program from the conference 1 year. Relieve the coach from her position for supporting this abhorrent behavior – if she did not stop it, yes she is supporting it. Review the referees lack of control of the game.

Player should be expelled from the University for violating the student code of conduct.

Parents of the other UNM players should make sure that their daughters quit the program.

Parents of BYU students should file a civil and criminal lawsuit against the player, the program and UNM.

It would be an outrage if Lambert were thrown to the wolves (pun intended) by herself.

New Mexico’s coaching staff knows who Lambert is, and they used her shamefully. They watched from the sidelines as she wreaked havoc on the field for 90 minutes, trying to intimidate BYU’s players by hurting them instead of playing them straight up, and they (the coaches) did nothing to stop Lambert or reign her in even as she escalated.

The UNM Athletic Department cannot allow the culpable adult coaches to hide behind the guilty student’s actions. If they throw Lambert to the wolves by herself without also disciplining the coaching staff, then they add greatly to the Lobos’ shame.

This is far more than an isolated incident that merely “crossed the line of fair play and good sportsmanship,” as Coach Kit Vela anemically assessed the behavior of her player.

What Elizabeth Lambert did was an act of blind rage.

What was she trying to do to BYU’s Kassidy Shumway? Send a message? Teach her a lesson? Get even for some perceived slight?

No.

Clearly, Lambert was trying to cause bodily harm to Shumway. She wanted to dominate her. She intended to injure her.

And frankly, Lambert could have gravely wounded Shumway with her attack. It’s remarkable that no neck, back or facial injuries resulted.

It was quite simply a simple-assault. It was a criminal act.

There is certainly ample video-graphic evidence to support assault charges. Rough play is one thing in a heated sports contest. However, this was an away-from-the-ball, deliberate action that was unrelated to the game.

Imagine if this exact same act of violence was filmed on the streets of Albuquerque. Does anyone seriously wonder if charges would have been filed?

As has been demonstrated in other sports, criminal laws are not suspended at the edge of the field. Players may be charged for their actions in a game.

If UNM coaching and administration staff do not recognize this and act in a more proportionate way than an “indefinite suspension” at the end of the season, and demonstrate by their actions that this type of conduct will never be permitted and tolerated, then I would actively encourage Provo law enforcement to launch an investigation.

pwned….

Word

What an embarrassment to the school. She should be kicked out of the school as well as the team. I think the coach knows that she plays this way and the coach should loose her job as well. The womans soccer program needs new leadership. This kind of dirty play should never happen. She could have broken that girls neck.

wow. psycho bitch. good god. take her off the field for life. she doesn’t have the capacity to play with any honor. no sportsmanship. she’s pathetic.

I don’t know Lambert. If she shwoed this kind of on-field behavior and lack of control in High School, why was she recruited? If she did not show this kind of behavior prior to attending UNM, who is responsible for dragging her so low?

It’s obvious that the COACHING on the UNM Woman’s Soccer Team is incompetent or worse.

Further, its clear BYU players were pulling cheap shots and were suffering no consequences from the Refs. When no punishments come from the Refs, players are tempted to retaliate. Not an excuse for Lambert but when Refs do not control the game and provide some level of justice, player conduct eventually gets out of hand.

What component of the Mountain West Conference is responsible for recruitment, training and governance of Soccer Referees? I looked on their web-site. Their are “Coordinators” for other sports officials but not for Soccer. Most of the conference ifreastructure is related to money and “controlling” the corruption which always accompanies big money. Does the Mountain West care about the actual sports?

Look at the Mike Locksley debacle. The Athletic Department does not know the process for University Internal Investigations. It’s bad enough that Lambert pulls his little stunt, but they don’t even know the procedure for disciplining their employee.

Look also at the statement from BYU’s coach

“I think we all understand that soccer is a physical game and that emotions are high,” Rockwood said. “We don’t really want to comment on it. People were battling and giving it a lot of effort, and some unfortunate things happened, and we just want to move forward.”

This is doublespeak for: “I hope they don’t look too close at the game films. They might see some of the cr*p we pulled and got away with.”

My advice for parents is to help their childen atheletes to find a different school and different conference. Here they can expect to find a poor quality sports experience.

Is it any wonder why the video clips of this have gone viral? Obviously this was a rough game, and Miss Lambert was rough enough to warrant cards for multiple infractions. But the reason this has gone viral is the pony tail hammer throw. I’m a sports fan, and a soccer fan and I have never seen anything like that.
If you compare it to football, how is that pony tail throw any different than a big football player whipping the neck of another player by grabbing the facemask? Same motion, same serious injury can result. But I’ve never seen a facemask penalty in football occur during a dead ball situation. That has got to be on the top 10 list of dirty plays I’ve ever seen, and certainly crosses the line between on the field fouls and criminal assault.
Also, obviously the refs are culpable for allowing this atmosphere to develop, and both coaching staffs are at fault for not stepping in, as it’s amazing that the pony tail throw didn’t result in serious injury. There’s lots of blame to go around.

This is fair game. See the youtube video, where this girl was provoked. Quit being such self haters. If the BYU’s mom feels bad, she should have asked her little princess stay at home and cut vegetables. I say cheers to Ms. Lambert and Go Lobos.

Elizabeth Lambert is being unfairly attacked. THIS IS TOTALLY SEXIST.

Lambert was wrong in kicking, pulling and punching, HOWEVER, she was only going as far as the referees would allow.

Men in sports will push, gouge, punch and kick until the referees call the foul. And we’d all say…if the other team didn’t like it, they should’ve fought back.

The BYU women didn’t fight back. The refs didn’t call the foul. Lambert was free to keep going, if she were a man.

Lambert was just testing her limits. SHE WAS JUST BEING AN ATHLETE.

I just wonder what game those refs were watching. I mean, I just saw 5 plays that deserved red cards, men’s or women’s soccer.

Sexist? So you’re going to make some connection with the Duke LaCrosse team here? How about her actions being inhumane and how the coach and refs did nothing to correct the behavior. Professional athletes have been arrested for actions resembling what ‘lil miss innocent’ displayed. Now, the University has a choice…be silent with a non-defined punishment, or speak up by defining what amount of tolerance is acceptable.

The refs should be fired and so should the coach. All sports are physical and a little dirty at times. This was a mugging and a thug clearly endorsed by the coach. She acted like a psycho and didn’t let up. Her coach’s lack of intervention clearly shows “a win above all “ mentality. A sad and poor lesson given that sports have so much to offer. Values such as hard work, honor, respect, fair play. Good thing she was a white chick. Could you imagine had it been a black athlete?

Duke Lacrosse? What are you talking about? This all took place on the field.

ON THE FIELD!

On the field, it’s only a foul when it’s called. Until it’s called, it’s fair game.

THAT’S SPORTS IN A MAN’S WORLD!

Michael Jordan pushed off all the time. Lawrence Taylor knocked people in the head. No one cared because it wasn’t called.

If you don’t like that behavior, blame the refs. An athlete keeps doing it until it’s called.

So where was the female ref while all this was going on?

Oh, wait, looking at the box score there were no female refs.

http://www.byucougars.com/Filing.jsp?ID=12984

Here…here is a classic video to compare with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAjWi663kXc

And do you know what the result was, on and off the field? His competitive soccer was done.

Big difference…that was called on the field, and he was ejected.

If he was not called, he would’ve kept testing his limits.

That’s what an athlete does.

Replay is used all the time in properly assessing the merit for possible punishment. In fact, it was HIGHLY contended that the Zidane red card was ONLY because the refs were able to see it on the big screen replayed at the venue.

This player should have a similar completion to her career, at least at NM. Wait, I think Flordia takes eye pokers and hair pullers. Maybe that’s a good fit.

Thanks, Ms. Lambert. I live in Philadelphia and New York now but am a double alum of UNM (79 and 85). The only news I ever hear in the East is how poorly the football team plays and now, the unbelievablely unsportsman-like behavior. She should be expelled from school, permanently. I am ashamed to be a Lobo fan these day. The world is a small place and UNM has enough challenges trying to become a better place and gaining a national (positive) reputation, and this woman has set back the PR efforts 100 years. Shame on Lambert, and the coach who recruited this pathetic excuse for a player.

Florida Men: Reigning National Champions, #1 team in the country.

Eye poking? Already forgotten.

For the record the officials were:

Referee: JOE PIMENTEL; Asst. Referee: MARK SACKETT; BILL DEBATTY;
Alt. Official: ALBERT MONTALVO;

What are their qualifications? Have they been reprimanded or suspended?

Another item from the box score:

CAUTIONS AND EJECTIONS: YC-NM #15 (76:29)

Just one yellow card? In this barfight?

Would they red card a drive by?

Hey Hans, check this out though-

I just quickly ran thru the following link which allows one to look at all the box scores:

http://www.golobos.com/sports/w-soccer/sched/nm-w-soccer-sched.html

With that link you can see that NM had significantly more yellow cards than their opponents in head to head games. If I have it correct, the tally was 17 cards for NM and 5 for the opponents.

Either the girls play hard or out of control. Guess that is for the coach to answer, but then again she started her press conference by saying that she loved the group because they were ‘fiery.’

http://www.golobos.com/sports/w-soccer/nm-w-soccer-body.html

Go figure.

Just please tell me why the student athlete is held responsible? An isolated incident should definitely fall on the shoulders of the athlete. Multiple infractions throughout the course of the game falls strictly upon the coach. While the center’s lack of cards is certainly an issue, the comments/apologies from the coach should be pasted upon Sportscenter. I could see allowing a player to conduct this behavior once, perhaps twice in the hopes she/he might correct the negative behavior. But, to allow a player to conduct multiple hostile acts not only speaks volumes about your program, but only aids the stereotype that American soccer has great athletes with absolutely no skill or tact.

Are you kidding me ? negative behavior ? it looked more like assault to me. she should be charged with a crime and banned from college sports for life. i hope those BYU players press criminal charges against her. i keep hearing “well soccer is a rough sport” there are to many decent players out there who respect the line, to allow trash like Lambert to tarnish the game.

I was appalled when I saw the clip. Ms. Lambert deserves to be banned from soccer for life. Also deserving very harsh sanctions are her coach and especially the referees. Ms. Lambert should have been red carded earlier in the game,

Where did the refs get certifiied? Mars?

Really nice apology that the SID wrote for her and released in her name, you gotta admit. Why not have her stand in public, in front of questioning reporters and express regret herself? Then we can judge of she’s really contrite.

I’d also suspend the idiot coach you said, “People were battling and giving it a lot of effort, and some unfortunate things happened, and we just want to move forward.” There is NO contrition there.

Wow, Brandon Spikes looks like a wittle tweety birwd compared to Ms. Lambert. Nice going.

This is where we are, folks…. reffing by internet.

Congratulations, college athletics, this is what you’ve become.

Let me understand this, a player gets an indefinite suspension for rough play and the head football coach punches an assistant coach in the face and only gets a 10 day suspension. Her only mistake was that she was a player and not a coach. Some attorney will have fun with this one.

Ms. Lambert should be criminally prosecuted. Her weak apology doesn’t cut it. She should also be tested for testocerone and examined for a penis. Permanent expulsion from particpation in all sports also applies. And the coach should be fired and made to serve in Afghanistan where she would learn the true meaning on ‘physical contact’ is common.

Maybe she should marry LeGarrette Blount.

Does anyone personally know this girl?? Is she effing bat shi crazy or what???? How can she show her face on campus after this???? She will probably transfer. What a total embarrassment as a human being. That was the worst display of violence I have ever seen in sports male or female. What a loser. She should put a bag over her head to prevent the public from seeing a loser. What scum.

New Mexico students: We need details about this outstanding citizen and student of your university. Please share all you know about this wonderful young lady. Thank you.

It is a shame the way Elizabeth Lambert is being trashed. Everyone should get a second chance.

After seeing an initial video, showing the punch in the back and the yanking the opponent down by the ponytail, I couldn’t believe what I saw. Make sure you look at the extended video showing other fouls, including a clear punch an opponent’s face as they went down.
Four things need to happen:
1. Ban this player from all interollegiate and intramural sports activities. This would cover NCAA (all divisions) and NAIA (NJCAA may not be necessary, since she is a junior). The University will probably have the responsibility for ruling on the intramural participation.
2. Review the coaches assessment of the situations. If the camera caught all of these flagrant fouls, the coach should have certainly seen them. After all, part of the coach’s job is to assess player performance during the game, knowing when a player needs to be pulled off the field for any reason (performance, fatigue, mental acuity, etc.).
4. Ban the University of New Mexico women’s soccer from further advancement in any playoffs this year, and perhaps next year. One persons actions (such as this) are a representation of the team and the sponsor (in this case, UNM). This is probably written in the “contract” for representing the University when the player signs on to play. At a professional level it is definitely a contract.!!
3. Review the referee’s performance and assessment of the entire game. This player could have gotten an immediate red card for at least three of the incidences. A review of the entire game will reveal how many fouls were ignored or missed, as well as the positioning on the field to govern the game.
Major point: No matter what the coach or referee could have done, the source is the player!!! If she is allowed to continue, I recommend “cleats up”.

“Quality student-athlete” indeed! Looking past the question of whether carding occurs in Mountain West games… and for that matter, how one becomes a ref in the Mountain West…

Soccer is a tough and rough sport. But it is not a dangerous sport if played and coached properly. How is it that Coach Vela is blameless for a tolerating a thugish, even dangerous, type of play? Lambert is obvioutsly a thug, but she had assistance from her teammates and an enabler in her coach. I think UNM and the Mountain West ought to sanction those who tolerate this kind of play, not merely the most obvious thug.

willyt rules!

“It’s a shame the way Elizabeth Lambert is being trashed”.

She should have thought her actions through BEFORE doing them. First she punches an opposing player and NEXT floors a competitor from BEHIND. She DESERVES trashing for what she did!

Did she take notes from Tonya Harding?

I didn’t hear about this until one of my ITALIAN friends posted it on his Facebook making fun of this girl. I saw “BYU New Mexico” in the title, and since you just don’t see New Mexico in many of the status updates over here (I’m in England) I thought I’d look.

I was pretty embarrassed that now all of them know the name of my school, and it’s because some girl couldn’t control herself, and her coach and refs couldn’t be bothered to exert some control for her. Way to go, UNM Athletics. Again. When it’s bad enough that foreigners in a country aaaaaall the way across the ocean are talking about it, it’s BAD.

Ignatius Reilly wrote:

…“Lambert was just testing her limits. SHE WAS JUST BEING AN ATHLETE.”

Mr. Reilly, your thinking is deeply flawed. Collegiate competition is NOT ABOUT testing the limits of the game. It is about competing in a FAIR manner. Your thinking undermines the essence of college sports.

Guys like you should be restricted to watching pro wrestling and prevented from sharing your views from young athletes.

Abq only makes European news agencies when you have a balloon accident or like now when you have a mean female soccer player.

If Lambert had been playing in a European league she would be a sell out. However, I still think she lacks a bit of finesse, she is no Mazeratti.

Doesn’t this girl have anyone who can vouch for her good character to which her statement alluded? She has really messed up her reputation and this could cause her a lot of problems in her future. She’s only a year away from having to enter the real world ie the workforce. She really needs some support if youre out there.

Let’s not equate “jockeying for position”
eg; a little nudging and soft-checked elbow’s on BYU’s part
with:

1-a closed fist slug to the kidney
2-double slaps to the face
3-a ponytail-whiplash-takedown
4-3 or 4 illegal slides
5-blatant tripping

etc…

need I go on?

All from #15

If she keeps this up she could get a job with Obama’s Chicago thugs.

Something tells me she was raised with 7 Brothers and no Sisters.

Remedy: Anger management courses (Plural) No babysitting jobs for her Full disclosure to her future husband of her temper

Somehow, I see her starring in a future episode of Cops, with her husband left in a puddle on the ground.

Or maybe, a member of the Military’s Special Forces Unit.
I want her with me in battle.

Bluto

Wow, you all are such hypocrites – she’s playing soccer and she gets physical. Worse stuff happens everyday in the country (and in ABQ) and you never hear any outcry. People still wanted to bone Chris Brown and blame Rihanna after he beat her. “Someone could have gotten seriously hurt,” some guy who probably beats his wife types. No one did get hurt, though. Dust the sand out of your vag and move on. Give me a break – we’ve all seen worse, we see fist fights in middle and high school, people get shot and stabbed all the time; hookers kick pimps in the balls. This is nothing. She got caught on tape. Big deal.

What the ____? looks like she was egged on by the other team members. at least she’ll stand up for herself! Go Liz! Maybe she can kick Schmidly, Harris and Regeants butts!

“This is in no way indicative of my character,” says E. Lambert. So what is? The rest of the week she is an angel maybe, so disregard anything else? Suck it up. If that is how you behave, then own up to the person you really are. No sugar coating, please. You are what you do when people see you AND when people don’t.

Liam – yes I can vouch for Elizabeth Lambert. I have known her and watched her play soccer at UNM the last 3 years. Although in no way do I condone her behavior during the BYU match, I have never seen her diplay such poor judgement. Yes, she is a strong, physical defender but I have never seen that type of behavior from her. Not sure want caused it in this particular match.

Scott – to say she had assistance from her teammates is absurd, Elizabeth would be the first to tell you that she takes sole responsibility for her actions, why try to bring down the other hardworking, decent players on her team. Yes, there are others that should share the blame for this game and player being out of control, but in know way can you blame her teammates in this situation. Did you even watch the game? Unbelieveable!

One of the ugliest sports bad conduct incidents of all time.

Lambert learned everything she knows from Mike Locksley (except how to pull off a cover-up)

November 7 at 10:53 AM
by stinky

Wow, you all are such hypocrites – she’s playing soccer and she gets physical. Worse stuff happens everyday in the country (and in ABQ) and you never hear any outcry. People still wanted to bone Chris Brown and blame Rihanna after he beat her. “Someone could have gotten seriously hurt,” some guy who probably beats his wife types. No one did get hurt, though. Dust the sand out of your vag and move on. Give me a break – we’ve all seen worse, we see fist fights in middle and high school, people get shot and stabbed all the time; hookers kick pimps in the balls. This is nothing. She got caught on tape. Big deal.

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Not knowing but reading your response I guess you also support cheating on your taxes, stealing, cheating on your wife, etc as long as you don’t get caught. Nice. You represent the new America/American —it is OK if everyone is doing it and its only bad because I got caught.

College and sports are suppose to be a place where young people go and get an education and hopefully learn some measure of morality and respect for you fellow human being. Apparently, you don’t share this view and just maybe you went to UNM which would explain not only your opinion but all the other justifying this behavior.

While no one died and got hurt this is embarrassing for UNM & its students. By the way traditionally speaking most college athletes that display this type of behavior on the field don’t end up doing well in life — Clarette, Philips & Vick (younger bro.-stompped a player in the face). You must think Brando Spike gouging a player’s eyes is OK then again he may just fit just fine at UNM.

Did she cross the line for soccer, sure. But any competitive athlete knows what it’s like to lose your head. Having played D1 ice hockey I’ve seen far, far worse. I just hope the administration doesn’t go too far in re “punishing” her as I’m sure the notoriety and embarrassment is punishment enough. Plus, I’ve never met a female soccer player who couldn’t handle the rough side to the game.

I don’t know what everybody else saw but I saw the BYU chick yank her shorts FIRST. Well one good yank deserves another LOL. Next time the athlete who may want to play a little dirty will think twice cause they may get their freakin melon yanked off! So all you soccer mom wannabees who are so appalled and want the death penalty for this girl take a seat in the back and nut up or shut up. Throw an elbow get punched in the back….yank her shorts get your freaking head ripped off. That sends a message, play dirty and she’ll bring it on in spades.

If I were Ms. Lambert’s parent I’d pull her from this school. As an as adult and a coach, they are suppose to be coaching not only how to play the game but how to win in life. That’s the beauty of sports.

Seriously how much can you suck to not only resort to violence against The Mormons and loose. Maybe next year you guys can play against the Amish and if you need to take it out on someone then play the Hari Christnas.

Seriously boo, how much can you suck at spelling LOSE, and act like a spelling police? Well champ, the next time when you’re not too busy wearing your magic mormon underwear, you could probably learn a bit on courtesy through the Amish or maybe even the HARE KRISHNAS.

At first, I was livid but that there’s a bit time to process & see E.Lambert as a human, there’s much to be said through actions. First, UNM’s lack of consequential action toward LOcksley & UNM football scandal has been a great lesson brought to fans awareness. The Athletic department, is obviously self will run riot. Naturally, if I were a high strung athlete a consequence of my aggressive behavior wouldn’t really come to mind. Hey, the UNM athletic dept and administration is so caught up in the money making business of sports, they’ve neglected the healthy psychological art of what sports manifests these athletes as productive members of society. After all, isn’t sports a good part of teaching, from youth to adults that discipline is a huge part of the art? Although actions aren’t acceptable, today I have compassion that this young lady’s lesson is magnified under the scrutiny of the nation. A thorough house cleaning of the UNM staff & administration should be done immediately.

UNM fan & future student,
Shell

Wow, what a sad ending to a very good season for the Lady Lobos. I attended all of their home games and was impressed with a majority of very talented soccer players. They seemed very team oriented and played well together. Miss Lambert started in every single home game I attended and never did I see her display any unsportsmanlike behavior. Yes, she is a very physical, agressive defender, however that is the nature of the game in Division I soccer. I was totally shocked when I saw the video on ESPN. Then I thought surely there had to be something going on for her to completely lose control like that. I did not see the game, but the 60 second video of just clips of her make me wonder what else took place in that game. In all the soccer games I have watched nobody gets that out of control without something leading up to it. I am extremely disappointed the officails and coaches would let it get that rough and not do something about it. It was almost laughable after everything that happened that the official pulls a yellow card out for the least offensive of the fouls, a trip! That is not the same #15 I have been watching in Albuquerque this year. I think opinions on the message boards all over have been harsh to downright wicked and hateful. I wish her and the team the best and hopefully Miss Lambert can get through this with the help of her teammates. No matter what anybody says or thinks or how awful they think she is I am sure she will still have the support of her teammates. I can tell they are a close team and will make it through this together and rebound for next season. I look forward to watching the Lady Lobos in the spring and next fall. Good Luck!

November 7 at 3:32 PM
by good one

Not knowing but reading your response I guess you also support cheating on your taxes, stealing, cheating on your wife, etc as long as you don’t get caught. Nice. You represent the new America/American —it is OK if everyone is doing it and its only bad because I got caught.

College and sports are suppose to be a place where young people go and get an education and hopefully learn some measure of morality and respect for you fellow human being. Apparently, you don’t share this view and just maybe you went to UNM which would explain not only your opinion but all the other justifying this behavior.

While no one died and got hurt this is embarrassing for UNM & its students. By the way traditionally speaking most college athletes that display this type of behavior on the field don’t end up doing well in life — Clarette, Philips & Vick (younger bro.-stompped a player in the face). You must think Brando Spike gouging a player’s eyes is OK then again he may just fit just fine at UNM.

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Sorry, sports fan, is it lonely up there on your pedestal? Your sanctimonious drivel got all the details wrong. I do represent America, though, you’re right. I represent an America where hard work and accomplishments are rewarded. Must piss you off, I’m sure. Since you seem to hate the new America/Americans, why are you wasting your time here? Cash out and leave. What’s stopping you?
I grew up in ABQ, I didn’t go to UNM – I got my BS, MS, and MD out of state. I got my parents a nice place in ABQ in High Desert, though. I wish I could cheat on my taxes, though. Thanks for the idea – your pedestal sounds like a great place, that’s what it’s like when you can look down on everyone else?
What I find wrong is the false outrage. How much horrible stuff – rape, murder, assault, domestic violence, child abuse, stuff that ACTUALLY will impact people for the rest of their lives – happens in the world, in your state, in your city, and how much of that do you get upset about? A soccer game and some girl slapping another? Big deal. I don’t know who Clarette, Philips, Vick (younger bro), and Brando Spike are, though. Do they live in your city or something? They probably aren’t as successful in life as you. They probably didn’t learn as much in college as you. I probably didn’t either. I learned how to study. It helped me in medical school, but other than that I don’t think I got much else out of my classroom experience. My real education came in the real world. Maybe you should go there some time, rather than getting upset about some girls getting all pissy at each other in a soccer match.

That “girl” should be booted all the way back to where she came from, CA from what I’ve read and heard. Locksley and Krebs deserve the same fate as far as I’m concerned!!

Re: Stinky. If you are an MD, then you should know that the actions of Elizabeth Lambert and a few others of her teammates could have caused serious and permanent injury to the BYU players. The player who was pulled down by the hair could experience whiplash type symptoms and pain for life. You mentioned “horrible” stuff like assault. This was blatant assault! I feel badly for your patients.

Why is BYU playing a team from Mexico anyway?

“I’d also suspend the idiot coach you said, “People were battling and giving it a lot of effort, and some unfortunate things happened, and we just want to move forward.” There is NO contrition there.”

Actually, JWP, that was what the BYU coach said –– even though it was HER players being brutalized! I don’t think I would be that good at “turning the other cheek.”

Re Stinky:

I’m am not on pedestal. Not at all I love all sports. I love a great hit, blood and even an occasional fist fight. That’s sports. My hero have failed and my sports nemesis have risen to change my mind about them.

Your obviously opinionated and don’t know a thing about college sports. After Ms. Lambert’s behavior this week Brando Spike is a college football player for Florida that Attempted to rake the eyes of an opposing player. It was every bit as blatant as Lambert’s behavior and also all over the news. The other guys I mentioned are also sad college thugs that ended up in jail. Again you don’t know college sports.

You didn’t go to UNM and you don’t know college sports. You solely have to say that it is not a big deal. As a MD then you must lack sensitivity and depth. The only thing you’ve posted was your arrogant level of education, indifference for fair play.

I wouldn’t want you as my MD. You sound cocky and obviously only posted to brag about yourself. These are kids who need guidance hopefully they’ll never need to look to you. Aside from bragging you haven’t offered any insight on this board and clearly wouldn’t offer any insight to a young player/student. I hope you aren’t working at a teaching hospital.

On Thursday, the UNM news release about the game described the Lobos as going “punch-for-punch with the Cougars and controlled the momentum for the majority of the match.”

In that release, coach Vela said, “We showed a lot of character out there. We showed that we are the soccer team that we are, and that we can stay with a team like BYU. … I think that we dished out everything that we were getting and it was a heck of a game.”

Then came the national exposure – and the suspension.

re: boo boo

I do suck at spelling. I googled my words prior to posting. I don’t get your point. I wasn’t acting like the spelling police you were. I was inspired by BYU’s team willingness to let the final score do all the talking. You talk about courtesy while being insulting. I’m not a Mormon either.

Still, UNM sucks. They cheat and in college sports aren’t even on the map. Sorta like you — a douchie windbag with no opinion or insight. I misspelled “sorta” so feel to point that out.

Hey boo boo,

I left a word out. So its a poorly written sentence. Her is the correction. “I misspelled “sorta” so feel FREE to point that out. “ Is the period suppose to be outside or inside the quotes? Good thing you are here. Please go over everyone’s posting and make sure spelling and syntax is correct.

So what’s your opinion not on me or what I wrote but how you feel about it?

Do you think you guys might beat able to beat a group of Latter Day Saints, Quakers or Druids?

If you watch the video, just prior to Lambert’s ponytail throwdown of Shumway, you’ll see Shumway sneakily reaching back with her left hand and pulling up and aside Lambert’s shorts in an attempted fingerblast of a provoking nature. I’d probably toss her to the ground too.
And you have to admit that Shumway dove on that pretty dramatically trying to draw the foul.

Good goin’, Lambert. Don’t take any crap from these trixies!

For those wondering why this is such a big deal because it happens often in men’s athletics: we hold women to a higher standard. We realize men are incapable of controlling their actions, and we excuse their bad behavior, especially during sporting events. We expect better from women, although I don’t expect men to be able to comprehend that. While this reply is mostly sarcasm, I still think it bears a ring of truth. And anyone fighting over this or making excuses for violence is just as poorly behaved as Miss Lambert.

lambert is a thug, pure and simple. Her coach and AD should be suspended for allowing her on the team.

I’m in Phoenix and saw the video on Youtube where it has gone viral. This woman is an embarrassment to the New Mexico soccer program. Because she is a young athlete, I would favor giving her a chance to learn from this mistake and express regret for her horrendous behavior. But she clearly does not belong on a soccer field for a long time.

What can you say? Lambert made some very poor decisions. I hope she takes the necessary steps to move on. As for her comments that it in no way is indicative of her character, I don’t buy it. Your actions are a result of your thoughts—if you look at the video of this, this wasn’t all in the heat of the moment—even then it’s inexcusable. I’ve played soccer for years and have never even thought about intentionally fouling someone. Occasionally games will get a little aggressive as participants go after the ball, but what kind of mindset do you have to have to intentionally do what Lambert did.

Soccer is a physical game, and frankly the only really out-of-line play was the hard pull. I’ve seen the rest of it many, many times. Usually you hope the ref calls a foul to control the game, but hard/dirty tackles are standard fare. Also, if someone elbows you, you elbow them back, it’s part of soccer. They make a huge deal about the forearm, but that’s really not that outrageous. The hair pull on the other hand was ridiculous. I’ve had my hair pulled for sure, but not like that. This girl has got a lifetime of bad press and I’m sure she’s learned her lesson. Clearly, no ref is going to let her get away with anything in the future. Let her back on the team and move on.

Hey boo,

Feeling bad Ms. Lambert kicked Elder Schumway and Elder Paynee’s butt?

Tsk..Tsk…

If you ONLY saw the clip, you think the BYU player pulled or elbowed her first, but E was actually PUNCHING her in the back until she finally elbowed E, then E gave the big punch. She was NOT provoked – she had a total mental meltdown.

November 8 at 2:36 PM
by Lamentel

Hey boo,

Feeling bad Ms. Lambert kicked Elder Schumway and Elder Paynee’s butt?

Tsk..Tsk…

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I don’t know who those girls are. I know they are player at BYU and that’s the point they aren’t the one that have this blog and many others posted about them. It is not them the video highlights as a thug. It is not them that brought shame to their schoolAs t, team mates, sports, state …you name it.

I gather the “elder” is a Mormon title. Your clever.

My school doesn’t loose to you guys or BYU. So that why I was poking fun.

The only butt Ms. Lambert kicked was her own. If she loses her scholarship and can’t pay for her college then she’s out of an education. She’ll graduate soon so this may and probably follow her for a while. I can’t comment on her friends but I think it be hard to make new ones or show your face around campus. Dating wise, I can’t think of many guys that would call first dibs. I imagine she probably is having a hard time even getting out to Starbucks. Not to mention the shame she probably brought on her parents.

So she kicked butt alright.

I think the Coach should be fired. And I hope she gets so help.

I wonder if she feels as good about kicking butt as you do?

As a coach I shocked by the actions taken by Ms. Lambert. In 18 yrs of coaching I can’t say that I haven’t seen play this rough or dirty especially from girls. What amazes me is that the refs did not take better control of the game. What is even more amazing is that the coach did not do something to get this young lady under control. I have always coached my players to not take crap off of other players. Retaliation leads to other problems and at times to injuries. There is no doubt in my mind that Ms. Lambert truly regrets her actions and unfortunately regardless of how good a player she will always be remembered as the dirty player from UNM. My advise is move on, learn from your mistakes and the next opportunity you have to play make the most of it. To the coach learn your lesson from this incident and be very glad that no one was seriously injured. As a coach I love tough play but really hate dirty play regardless of the circumstances.

Regarding the above posts from “Stinky” and “Good one”:

Clearly, having an M.D. after your name, a wise-person it does not automatically make you. Not only that, but it probably represents a bigger widespread problem with the healthcare problem in this country in general. If you don’t know what i mean, then read some of the posts and counter posts from “stinky” and “good one”.

Seriously, come on? What are you talking about, stinky? Just because terrible things happen in the world, it makes it okay to be a bad sport and to bend the rules in a college soccer game? You have no insight, and your opinion is worthless.

“Ignatius Reilly” (above) obviously condones the behaviour that the rules are meant to be bent until you are caught. i.e., you can play as rough as you want so long as the refs don’t reign you in. Isn’t that just peachy? aren’t we a people that require the authorities to always keep us in check—otherwise we have no moral center at all. These are great lessons we are learning here boys and girls. Isn’t this why you have your kids play sport when they are young, so they can learn what’s important in life? I’m glad you are sharing your sociopathic tendencies on this blog.

This girl should be kicked out of school, criminally prosecuted, and banned from ever participating in team soccer at any level. Hopefully she will do some jail time.

Hold the coach accountable. The player would not do this if it was not part of the coaching mentality.

Boo, you rock for standing up for yourself. Especially after being accused of being mormon when any mormon can tell you aren’t.
You idiots attacking boo are just that, good old home grown idiots.
Way to go UNM, show the world what we aren’t made of…class.

Oh and Lamentel, women are called sisters not elders. Nice try at a lame insult though.

I think it’s funny that Elisabeth showed “remorse for her actions” yet if she truly would’ve been remorseful she would’ve stopped and said, wow I’m hurting people and I need to stop. She deserved what she got. Oh and one other thing just because a mormon school is playing sports doesn’t mean everyone’s a member of the LDS Faith, some players aren’t. Oh and that every mormon (LDS) is perfect is far from the truth. LDS people are still human and can make mistakes just like you and me, and like elisabeth, We’re all here to learn.

clearly, if the ref’s had the game in control earlier, this incident probably would have not happened. for all you who judge…were you at the game? the media only puts out what will sell which seemed to be very one-sided. failed to show byu taking out unm’s goalie after the play and other acts of unfair play which did not get a penalty or card. extremely inconsistent with the officiating. ref’s should be under more scrutiny.
i was at the game.

Having a daughter who also plays Div 1 soccer, yes it is a physical sport. But this player is way over the line. I also believe this is not a isolated incident, I am sure this player has been playing like this all year or for most of her soccer career, Shame on the coach for encouraging this type of play, you cannot tell me the coach was not aware of this, they just finally got caught!!!! I bet if you went back to other games this year that this girl played in you would see that same type of dirty play.

damn! why did she have to apologize? apologizing is a sign of weakness. I may just have to retract my offer of marriage to her. but, what a woman! I LOVE YOU ELIZABETH!

This chick should be brought up on charges as should the refs associated with this game. The ponytail head jerk could have broken that girl’s neck. Her actions are a reflection of all that is wrong with sports, and America’s acceptance of criminal behavior from sportsmen/women. Hey, if Michael Vick can make millions again after being banned from the sport of football why not give Elizabeth a million dollar contract for roller derby soccer?

Ms. Lambert….your actions were not who you really are???? Please, we all got to see who you really are. You have taken a talent and ruined it with your attitude and hatred. Go home, take some anger management and put your soccer uniform away. You don’t belong in sports any longer.

wow so many issues so little time. Abq culture of violence as “stinky” so aptly cited has been exposed to the world in one blatant pony tale slam. mw Refs, umn coaches,unm athletic director,Abq mayor, aps superintendent, violence is a part of your culture and a serious self examination might be worth a second of your time. Don’t just blame each other on the crap rolling down the hill

I just watched the video of Elizabeth. Ok,what she did is not acceptable but where is the referee?. Players can be in bad mood some days and do weird things,however that’s the point where referees come.He should have shown a red card to Elizabeth after her first push/slap whatever.If he did it, Elizabeth would not be in such a position today.
It’s not only Elizabeth’s guilt, referee should also be punished.
A last message to Elizabeth: “You are so cute Eli,forget about anything,life is going” :)

looking at the video concerning Lambert and reading that hundreds are crying for her head and for her to be charged crimainally, say loud and clear,BALDERDASH!!! I’m certainly not condoning her actions, but soccer can be a pretty rough sport and if anybody is to blame for her escalating actions it is the officating referee and linemen together. She should have been yellow-carded and when the overly rough play contioued the red card should have been shown. To Sien Dia the player as if it was all her fault completely makes you look like the proverbial Boston Soccer Moms.

Elizabeth Lambert must have been raised by wolves. I’ve benched my six year old for behavior far, far less egregious, and while both of our own kids play hard, they’ve learned more sportsmanship in their few years than Lambert has in all of hers. I am certain that she didn’t all of a sudden get up one morning and start playing this way. Someone should have pulled the plug on her participation LONG before her behavior created headlines. This reflects most seriously on her parents (who should have taught her better), her current soccer program, and upon every person that ever coached her and did nothing to civilize her. Shame on all those who let her get this far.

I love how everyone on here knows everything about Elizabeth Lambert, her parents, her coaches, her teammates, her boyfriend, her pet hedgehog,the type of shoes she wears, what she eats for breakfast, what movies she watches, how she was raised, how she does in school, how she thinks, what she did as a child, what she will become later in life, yada, yada, yada – there are worse things happening in this country in world right now than some hair-pulling – get a life!

November 9 at 9:02 PM
by Gina

I love how everyone on here knows everything about Elizabeth Lambert, her parents, her coaches, her teammates, her boyfriend, her pet hedgehog,the type of shoes she wears, what she eats for breakfast, what movies she watches, how she was raised, how she does in school, how she thinks, what she did as a child, what she will become later in life, yada, yada, yada – there are worse things happening in this country in world right now than some hair-pulling – get a life!

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So you’d be willing to submit to being pulled to the ground backwards by your pony tail? How about a punch to the back? etc, etc.

If it was your sister? Friend? Daughter… you?

“there are worse things happening in this country in world right now than some hair-pulling” I’ve read this board most have shown concern about her behavior where it may lead and where it came from. Maybe at UNM you can take some psychology classes and then you may understand better.

By the way of all the awful thing you mentioned what have you done to make it better than to trivialize a person’s behavior that was so out control it drew national attention. NATIONAL and the some. So it stands to reason it wasn’t just hair pulling.

Should she be punished more than Zinedine Zidane was for his 2006 WC headbutt? What did the BYU players do to set her off.

Other than the hair pull, the other stuff — slide tackles, swinging arms in the air, a retaliatory elbow in response to an elbow, and a tackle on a breakaway, are just part of soccer.

I don’t know if anyone else on this blog watches soccer at the highest levels of the sport, but if they did, they would know that soccer players are the biggest actors in the world…they’ll drop, roll, and moan on the ground at the slightest touch, in order to get the fouls.

….and what’s with ESPN? Did they tell a cameraman to focus the camera on her for the entire game, then edit out everything but the fouls? That’s what is seems like.

This young lady should be expelled. She showed no class and is a disgrace for any University. She should be thinking about a career in MMA.

Lambert & UNM on CNN.

GO UNM! For those that want to argue it wasn’t a big deal and that Ms. Lambert is getting picked on.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/sports/2009/11/09/moos.meanest.soccer.player.cnn

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/sports/2009/11/09/moos.meanest.soccer.player.cnn

Oh dear oh dear oh dear, You Americans just don’t get it do you? This is not ‘Football’ with dozens of players and more body armour than a soldier in Afganistan, this is soccer,it’s a rough physical game. However that said hair/shirt tugging and punching/elbowing is definitly not in the rules. The rules state that tugging or pulling is a yellow card,punching or elbowing is an automatic sending off. But you all have missed the point I’m afraid and that is the terrible officials you had officiating at the game, why oh why were none of the infringments by BYU or this girl penalised. Yes the coach should have taken her off if only to prevent one of his/her players being sent off and having to play the remainder of the match with 10 players never mind ‘spirit of fair play’ and all that.

Players Win Games
Coaches Loose Games
Refs RUIN Games

The player was out of line. Those refs should be banned from officiating at any level again.

Where are the police and criminal charges?? What she did was not in the heat of the moment, it was all game long. She wasn’t aggressive, she was thuggish. And almost all of the hits that made the news reels were attacks from behind with the other players unable to defend themselves. That boys and girls is called assault and is illegal in all 50 states, regardless of the venue. Time to for a little jail time to help her think about why she believes she is above the law. Her second chance should be at another institution with the stipulation that she never set foot on another soccer pitch.

ok. elizabeth lambert is evil. or whatever. i’ve gotten the point.

but i have been on the internet for some time today, trying to find out if kassidy shumway (remember her, the victim of assault) was injured or not.

all i see is a video clip that shows shumway laying on the ground like a dead fish only able to barely move one flipper.

i didn’t watch the game. i don’t even know how or when or if shumway ever got up.

am i the only one who cares about the pummelled?

-cjf

You may be able to find your answer within the story above.

“Soccer at the Division I level is very physical,” Rockwood said. “Some games are more physical than others, and like I tell my players, we just need not to react when those things happen and make sure we do the best that we can. BOTH CARLEE AND KASSIDY CONTINUED ON WITH THE GAME and really tried hard not to let that affect their play.

As a 20 year referee, including calling games in Africa, this player’s conduct is beyond the pale. She should be banned from compettion forever. Her half hearted apology rings hollow and humility is not in her heart.

I think this little t-r-a-m-p needs a swift kick in the vag. True actions of a slt.

o.k.

if you were there and saw it, i accept it.

i just didn’t see how a yank like that wouldn’t cause at least whiplash.

-cjf

No. This person has no business on a ‘sports’ field …a lot of young female athletes are recovering from preexisting knee injuries/surgeries from high school which will affect them for the rest of their lives …there is no need for some kind of Terminator out there on the pitch going after their knees … ..absurd. This is ridiculous. This person should be in Roller Derby.

ahem..cough..gag..

i couldn’t say whether humility is in elizabeth’s heart. but i wouldn’t say that it isn’t. i read one post somewhere by some gal who actually knows elizabeth. she said that what liz (less syllables) did in no way was a description of her character. i’m leaning towards giving liz the benefit of the doubt.

she may be feeling like she caused a train wreck. then i wish there was a way i could speak to her personally, that i might say something to make her feel better. let us just be glad shumway is alive and kicking. (pun intended)

if liz doesn’t feel like she caused a train wreck, she should, and as the immortal forrest gump would say…“that is all i have to say about that”.

the media has to make their money, and it is an unfortunate trait of theirs that they sensationalize the living #%!! out of everything. this is why there are so many arrows being shot at liz, her coach and her school. naturally it is hard to be objective. but starting now, let’s try to be.

from all the highlights i’ve seen, this is my take on this…

throwing out the ponytail, everything i saw was a soccer defender who really plays gritty, “take no prisoners” soccer. no harm in that. also from what i saw, i would bet she is @#$%& good at it.

a self confident team might see this and, unwisely, pick on her to get her to lose her temper. honestly, if someone elbowed me in the gut, i would respond similarly.

and if some guy tried to stick their hand up my pants…i would deck the guy with a black eye, but not a broken neck.
as a fine one to talk, i would further say that controlling one’s own temper on the field is also a soccer skill, just as any other one. and liz need to work on that, yet with a balance. she plays a position where she must be dominant. that part she shouldn’t lose. it’s about self control.

as for the coach, she probably didn’t take liz out because she is that good, and needed to stay in that game. i don’t think it’s realistic to expect that the coach would have a vulcan mind meld with every player on the field, so she knows when one of them is about to pop their cork.

as for the referees, and this includes dave martin, if some referee didn’t see something like a person’s feet go up in the air, then the body slam to the turf, then something is wrong. either incompetence, or there needs to be more referees. right now, no referee should even be in this thread criticizing liz, her school, or coach.

anyway, that’s my dollar’s worth. (2 cents plus inflation).

i don’t even know how i got into this. i stumbled on it and thought i might find out if shumway was o.k. i graduated from um- rolla (grad. 1985).

then i felt i had to write something more objective, looking at all the angles. it is hard for the school to keep cooler heads right now. but please try.

and who the heck is “rockwood”?

-cjf

Yeah, that’s the mature thing to do, “respond similarly,” tit for tat. What great sportsmanship. “Throwing out the ponytail . . .” Oh sure, just ignore the worst thing she did. That makes sense.

I am a UNM alumni, make that an embarrassed alumni. Good grief, it is hard enough to get UNM and New Mexico on the map in a positive light. Why would this behavior not be stopped by the coach? I’m done with $$ to UNM. The school is going downhill, and this is just another example. I am glad UNM lost the game. It seems that this infraction should keep UNM out of play next year…not just Lambert.

by the truth

The reason players trash talk is to get into another’s head. BYU’s occasional actions were that. On any given day on any sport at any level it happens. The difference is how a player reacts. I feel “0” sympathy for Elizabeth Lambert she got owned. She is not a victim. Neither she or her coach scouted well. BYU probably did and figured milking her goat would get to snap or the players simply figured they could get to her. THERE IS NO EXCUSING HER BEHAVIOR PERIOD. Just like having an everyday argument with someone who has a short trigger and gives you the right ammunition. It takes very little to sets them off. Her coach should have pulled aside and coached her. Her coach should have another step up as the enforcer —- THAT’s SPORTS, strategy, coaching —- it is why we watch. Sports are a chess game on many many levels including what you can get away with. Elizabeth Lambert’s actions are the product of a fragile player. One that like being a thug and not being challenged. She only has to blame herself. her coach should be fired for not coaching.

I watched it all
again and aain.
My conclusion is that this tough lady hammered her opponents on the field with her dirty play not once but at least four or five
time.

Ban her from the sport if she stays, but more than that
expell her from the school now and forever. Bully or Beast
Take your pick and be right twice.

Bill

Elizabeth,

I feel for you. I think that if I had another player grabbing on my crotch during the game I would have done the same thing. If you instigate bad behavior, expect some back. If the referees aren’t calling the bad behavior then the blame is ALL on them. After all, the referees are the police force on the field. At the most you should be suspended a maximum of 10 days and 1 game. That is the punishment Mike Locksley received and he should be held to a much higher standard than you. Good luck to you and hopefully you are back on the field as soon as possible.

P.S. I heard that the women’s rugby club would love to have you in your off-season.

My first thought on hearing about this incident was that this is being played up so everyone forgets about Head Coach Mike Locksley punching his assistant coach in the face and skating. Ooh, look, a “girl” is being aggressive — better end her athletic career, because she doesn’t have Admin to back her up like Mike did. Screwing a student over is standard operating policy for UNM’s administration.
Damn them, from Schmidly on down to the coach that failed her.

Elizabeth Lambert you are a monster. Try as you may to justify your actions on the field, you are nothing but an evil bully. I sure hope you do not have children. I don’t want to think about how verbally and physically cruel you will be towards them when they do something wrong.

Tyler, you’re a tool. “If the referres aren’t calling the bad behavior the blame is ALL on them. After all, the referees are the police force on the field.” So if a criminal isn’t caught, the fault is with the police, not the criminal?

Amyjay, this is a conspiracy? Throwing the woman under a train to protect a man? Lambert is innocent?

Some of these comments amaze me. Everyone knows that you can’t assail sports just based on some players’ behavior. But the attitude expressed in some of these comments is what makes me sick about sports. In some cases, the fans are the worst part of the game. Sickening.

There is NO excuse, from ANY quarter, for Lambert’s behavior. She has been righteous enough to admit that. Defending her as a ‘take no prisoner’s’ player, or as a victim of sexual assault or gender conspiracy is farcical.

I’m sure if more game videos were reviewed we would see a higher incidence of this type of violent behavior, from Ms. Lambert as well as other players. I’d like to see someone post more.

Why are so many people eager to place blame where it doesn’t belong?

Referees are fallible humans. They’re not going to catch every infraction on the field and some of them are also susceptible to bias and payola. The coach may have even encouraged overly aggresive behavior on the field. None of this exhonorates Lambert.

What makes those who defend her think “tit for tat” is a justifiable reason for such overt unsportsman-like conduct?

Soccermadre:
“I don’t know if anyone else on this blog watches soccer at the highest levels of the sport, but if they did, they would know that soccer players are the biggest actors in the world…they’ll drop, roll, and moan on the ground at the slightest touch, in order to get the fouls.”

Sadly, this is true and it takes any enjoyment I might otherwise have of watching the sport. This is crap. These players are crap. They’ve reduced the game to a pile of crap not worth watching. This is the same reason I hate basketball and prefer not to watch it. There’s something seriously wrong with a sport when penalties play such a big role in the game and in fact are an integral part of it. These players have removed all the nobility and decency out of sports. Instead of playing an honorable game, they have reduced it to a bunch of acting, bluffing, back-biting and physical assault. Now that decency and fair play has been virtually eliminated by sports, that leaves nothing but a bunch of childish antics instead of a real game. These sports have been reduced to a pile of bullshit.

Particularly disturbing is the preditory posturing of this girl. Yes, she is needing to be vigilant of her opponants and assert herself as to the interests and spirit of the game. That being said, no amount of justification on either side of the gender fence exists to argue for crimminal behavior in any sport. I can remember the quip, “ I was at a fight and a hockey game broke out.” It’s a sad , sad day when attitudes of a potentially great sport like soccer are distracted by a such. Maybe the “Crazy” missed her calling for Cage Fighting. At any rate, I am aware of atheletes on all levels, of all sports, in all genders putting on both verbally and physically. The problem with resigning this incident soley to that camp’s consentual rationale, and allowing it to die a silent death is evident to anyone with a brain and any empathy. How is this crimminal behavior any different than college hazing? It’s not. It just happens to be housed in the cushy frat. of college sports. If the Schumway player had been my cousin, a scholarshipped member of Milsap’s team, I would press hard for answers. I would demand accountability for a player who stalks and assaults opponants. Viewing the video it is evident the spirit of malice and not game relevence was Lambert’s intent, delivered in her posture,facial expression and action. ABSOLUTELY CRIMMINAL.

The coach is aying this Liz is a good athlete. We need to examine the intelligence of the coach. She is not eligible to coach a kinter garten team. Where are the referees? The referees as well as the coacha and the athletic direcor of unm should lose their jobs. They are a shame for the college. Liz should be kicked out of UNM and her scolarship should be rescinded. Hope no one will hire her except WWA. She should be ashamed of her actions and should pay the price for the actions. Some one should sue the college for the injuries, she caused.

I just want to reiterate a post from a previous person, because they hit it right on!

“It would be an outrage if Lambert were thrown to the wolves (pun intended) by herself.

New Mexico’s coaching staff knows who Lambert is, and they used her shamefully. They watched from the sidelines as she wreaked havoc on the field for 90 minutes, trying to intimidate BYU’s players by hurting them instead of playing them straight up, and they (the coaches) did nothing to stop Lambert or reign her in even as she escalated.

The UNM Athletic Department cannot allow the culpable adult coaches to hide behind the guilty student’s actions. If they throw Lambert to the wolves by herself without also disciplining the coaching staff, then they add greatly to the Lobos’ shame.”

Jack wrote this……

Also, my daughter, 14, has played for 8 years, and loves the sport.
She was disturbed and confused by what happened. Where was the intervention by the refs? How can my daughter feel assured that she will not be victim to this type of play when she sees it happen on t.v. without the ref taking control of the game, or that girl’s coach taking control.

It may be hyped up by the media, but it needs to come to light;
this type of ‘sportsmanship’ ruins all integrity of fair play and respect for fellow athletes. Which I always point out to my daughter after watching pro games on the t.v. , as we watch players from both sides shake hands and even pray together.

Oh, and check youtube for Liz’s dating video. It sure does not help her case. Wow!

Universities need to vet their players better……