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NM GOP spouts about spending

Last updated: 09/13/10 1:35am

During the Republican candidate forum last week, the message was clear: Our systems are in debt, and uncontrolled government spending is the culprit.

“Almost 25 percent of all people that work (in New Mexico) … are public employees. If you look at the national average, it’s more like 15 percent,” lieutenant governor candidate John Sanchez said. “I hope that one of the first things Susana Martinez does as the next governor is to fire every single appointee by Bill Richardson.”
Sanchez was one of three republican candidates who spoke at Thursday’s forum hosted by the UNM Conservative Republicans. Tom Mullins, district three congressional candidate, and Antoinette Baca, candidate for state house district 21 seat, also participated.

Each candidate suggested that tax cuts for businesses and smaller government were solutions to solving the state’s economic woes.

“The Democrats’ answer to these problems is to continue to raise taxes, to penalize businesses and to continue to spend wildly,” Sanchez said. “We can’t continue to tax New Mexico into success. We must create private sector jobs.”

The candidates also discussed government funding for education. Mullins said the government should play less of a role in education, and families should play more of a role.

“The Constitution of the United States is not involved in the higher education aspect, or the high school and elementary school level of education in this
country,” Mullins said. “When we have a problem in education, I don’t think it relates to dollars; it relates to parenting.”

Mullins said students need to achieve certain goals before advancing to higher grades.
“I think we need to ensure that our children read by the third-grade level, and if they don’t read by the third grade, they shouldn’t be pushed beyond that point,” Mullins said.

Sanchez said state education expectations should be raised.
“From the state’s perspective, we need to end this culture of low expectations,” Sanchez said. “Let’s be real. There are some people who are not going to go to college, and we need to identify who those children are and find out what traits and talents they may possess so that we can prepare those kids for jobs.”

The candidates also slammed government services like the Environmental Protection Agency for bloating the deficit. Mullins said the agency should have less power.
“I’d like to see the EPA reined in. I think they’ve gone too far and I think the National Environmental Policy Act is being interpreted as the ‘national environmental protection act,’” Mullins said. “We need to get back to allowing our businesses to function, specifically in oil and gas.”

Mullins, a petroleum engineer, said global warming was being overplayed and the Cap and Trade bill would also increase the nation’s deficit.

“The carbon dioxide that comes out of your mouth is not a pollutant. In my opinion, it’s plant food,” Mullins said. “The Cap and Trade bill, if it goes through, is equivalent on a cost basis to all existing environmental legislation.”

Sanchez said the energy industry, particularly oil and gas, would create many jobs for New Mexicans and bring in tax dollars.

“Common sense when it comes to protecting the environment — we need to have that,” Sanchez said. “But, at the same time, let’s go out there and take advantage of what New Mexico has to offer: oil and gas, coal, uranium. And we have great opportunities for wind and solar.”

A representative of UNM Conservative Republicans said another forum will be held in two weeks.

Published September 13, 2010 in News

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inflammatory

September 13, 2010 at 5:03 AM
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maybe the education thing wouldn’t be as big a problem if you christian rednecks weren’t raising your kids to believe that evolution is bullshit and that all scientists are liars and work for the devil.


slowhike

September 13, 2010 at 6:30 AM
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Most, but not all Christians understand that science was created and used by God to create the universe. However, the education issue has nothing to do with “inflammatory’s” remark about evolution. Home Schooling is so far ahead of NM public schools it’s not funny. Home Schooling was initiated by Christians, but it caught on and has a wide spread following today. Mullins is right on target about education, and Sanchez is correct about low expectations. Nice job you guys!


Common sense

September 13, 2010 at 7:56 AM
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Sanchez is an idiot. NM has a high rate of public employees because of national programs like Sandia and Los Alamos, etc. These people are not a bunch of Richardson lackeys but are hard-working government employees with legitimate jobs. If he knew anything about NM (or was not just trying to score cheap political points), he would never say something like this.

“Fire ‘em all” is a great approach to dealing with high unemployment in years of recession.


Common sense

September 13, 2010 at 8:04 AM
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Mullins is a petroleum engineer and thinks the EPA should have less of a say in regulating pollution and environmental contamination? No conflict of interest there.

“The carbon dioxide that comes out of your mouth is not a pollutant. In my opinion, it’s plant food.” One difference, smartypants Mullins, is that there is nothing we can do about the CO2 that comes out of our mouths, but there is something we can do about what pours out of coal-fired power plants. These are in no way equivalent. Again, Conservative Republican candidates’ claim fail to pass the sniff test.


BC

September 13, 2010 at 10:18 AM
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another forum for BS politics, NM is a very large state with a small population, and that requires a larger percent of public employees to maintain services. Somehow I don’t think laying off public employees is going to help with unemployment or bring in additional revenue as roads and services degrade, as for education, clearly people making these statements are lacking some of the fundamentals only proving the need for better education. Easy to say cut gov spending but what are you willing to without? police? fireman? roads? water? sewer and garbage? what we can without is foolish politicians with one line solutions that go nowhere.


once again more GOP junk

September 13, 2010 at 11:11 AM
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I get so sick of the two faced GOP crap being sprouted all the time. The recession is here because of THE GOP.

It started back when Regan drove the budget out of whack and has continued in the red all through any GOP administration. Clinton managed to balance a budget, something Shrub never came close to doing.

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Bunch of freaking idiot whiners. Keep these morons away from public office and away from the purse strings. It’s not public programs that are bankrupting this country. It’s the massive tax cuts for the rich and the piss on trickle down republican idea of growth.

Let the GOP rule and what you get are kings running companies making 100’s of millions while the workers are being paid 1990 wages. Who do you think really keeps this country’s companies going? One guy in an office stealing all profits, or the guys who put in 8-10 hour days on the line actually making product.

What a joke mullins is… I say fire him first.

LMAO, my verify was “How do you spell monster?”
Answer: Mullins


slowhike

September 13, 2010 at 12:34 PM
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Well of course, everything is the GOPs fault right? Global warming, economic recession, wars, pestilence, hurricanes. And the Liberal democrats are always right, right?


inflammatory

September 13, 2010 at 3:52 PM
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i was under the impression that the GOP doesn’t think climate change is real, though well-documented. tax cuts for the rich eliminates the middle class and their surplus money disabling economic fluidity. spending trillions of dollars on war isn’t being conservative and the mobilization of forces was set in motion by a republican president less than one year after being elected. and when you know a hurricane is coming and don’t do anything about it until a week after it hits, you are culpable for the damage. as far as pestilence, your god seems to be at the root of that one.


inflammatory

September 13, 2010 at 3:59 PM
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though it does tie back into the climate change issue…


Phillip Howel

September 13, 2010 at 7:26 PM
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INFLAMMATORY gives a half truth with “i was under the impression that the GOP doesn’t think climate change is real, though well-documented.” The half of the truth is liars have fabricated documents, discarded hard science that explains temperature changes such as those that occurred during the middle ages, ignored the facts that show the relationship between temperature change and CO2, and the actual benefits of a degree or two of global warming.

More than 15,000 people of science have said man caused global warming is not true, the UN has admitted it’s report is inaccurate and overstates the potential of problems, the High Court in England found 7 or more significant errors in Al Gore’s movie making it a work of fiction. In The UK if the movie is shown to school kids they are told of the errors and given a fact sheet explaining them.

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All of this has been heavily discussed here in the past year.

Bush and the hurricane is another statement looking for truth. Says INFLAMMATORY, “when you know a hurricane is coming and don’t do anything about it until a week after it hits,…” must mean he is talking about the former governor of LA and the mayor of New Orleans. Did you not see the pictures of the hundreds of school buses that were submerged while parked on their lots because the mayor did not order them moved to a safe location OR gassed and ready to move people out of harms way? The failure of mayor and governor to have 100% of local and state police on duty is not the failure of the president, who had no authority to issue those orders, it is theirs. Local officials had no plan for evacuation in place with competent leadership. The president could not mobilize federal help until the governor of the state requested that help; something that took he 5 days to do. Isn’t it the responsibility of local officials to prepare for something they knew for a week was coming? INFLAMMATORY, you do know those well know facts, don’t you?

PLEASE, follow the rule of language that says you capitalize the first letter of a sentence so people know it is the beginning of a new sentence. Most people were taught that rule in grammar school English classes. I noticed you referred to people and education. Please use yours.


Phillip Howel

September 13, 2010 at 7:29 PM
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ONCE AGAIN… how much of a person’s earnings should they be allowed to keep for them self and their family?

If a person pays 10-20-30 percent more in income taxes than another, should they get 10…percent more services?


inflammatory

September 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM
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for a christian you seem very concerned with yourself and seem to not give a shit about your fellow man. are you familiar with the teachings of this person you claim to emulate? yeah jesus said to make sure the poor people don’t get too much help. the tax cuts referenced are for people that make more than 250000, not exactly taking food off your table. i guess if you use a big enough needle, you can get anything through it. i’ll capitalized whatever i want to. al gore is not a climate scientist. ask the polar bears about the ‘benefits’ of a degree or two change. everyone shares the planet, get with the program. your god didn’t give you the planet, he’s dead.


TM

September 13, 2010 at 8:50 PM
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Inflammatory, Grammar rules aside, You are very capable of towing the democratic party line. I’m especially impressed with your ability to bring religion into every political argument. As an atheist myself, I would have no problem if all religions disappeared, but sadly they aren’t going anywhere, so there is no need to bring more discrimination over them into the world. Grow Up. Realize that everyone has their own views. Secondly, Please have an original thought. Everything you say sounds like a TV ad from the last presidential election. I have yet to meet a Democrat who understood economics. Maybe that’s why so many of you seem to feel like you’re some kind of Robin Hoods helping the poor by yelling louder than the next guy, unfortunately talk is cheap, it does’nt accomplish anything. If you think that government spending is at acceptable levels, just take a five minute look at any government agency. I think its quite obvious they have no idea how to properly use money.


inflammatory

September 14, 2010 at 7:35 AM
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original or not, they stand as true. yeah spend, trillions on wars and then say the people spending billions (trying to help the economy you destroyed)are financially irresponsible. not a dem. just see their points. if you don’t make more than $250,000 a year, they aren’t representing you, they’re fooling you. i love paying taxes and would love to pay more if it will help fix things like the healthcare/insurance issue, because thats what tax dollars are for, not for giant no bid contracts to war profiteers. not robin hood, just concerned about my fellow man. if you don’t want religion in the conversation, you might want to speak with your GOP talking heads. you’re allowed to have your own views, but not if they establish, through governance, any religious viewpoint. the only reason we are in these wars is because your boy bushy felt like he was doing god’s work(his words). a multi-trillion dollar war for religion(and oil). that is terrorism. it undermines the fundamental core of our governmental philosophy. sadly the ones who commit these attrocites are not the ones who suffer their ill-conceived effects. that is put upon the soldiers fighting overseas and the victims of 9/11. as though that wasn’t bad enough, they then parade their sacred memories around as tools of their propaganda, trying to disguise the fact that they themselves are culpable for the death, pain, and suffering. you align yourself with these people?


Phillip Howel

September 14, 2010 at 7:58 AM
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INFLAMMATORY, your demonstrated lack of respect aside with your ‘up yours’ ignorant mis-use, or deliberate ignoring the rules of grammar, you spout what is not true. Implied in your “ask the polar bears about the ‘benefits’ of a degree or two change.” is that infamous picture of a bear on an ice floe and the mantra of the know-nothing left, that polar bears are dying off because of “climate change, global warming.”. The following provides a scientific look at the stats for the polar bear which has an overall increase in population with declines in certain sub-groups.

“In a news release issued after its conference last July, the PBSG [Polar Bear Study Group] concluded that only one of 19 total polar bear subpopulations is currently increasing, three are stable and eight are declining. Data was insufficient to determine numbers for the remaining seven subpopulations. The group estimated that the total number of polar bears is somewhere between 20,000 and 25,000. (Estimates of the population during the 1950s and 1960s, before harvest quotas were enacted, range from 5,000 to 10,000.)

However, the PBSG quickly acknowledged that “the mixed quality of information on the different subpopulations means there is much room for error in establishing” the numbers, and “the potential for error, given the ongoing and projected changes in habitats and other potential stresses, is cause for concern.”

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INFLAMMATORY, you can read the entire report at: http://www.examiner.com/seminole-county-environmental-news-in-orlando/canada-s-growing-polar-bear-population-becoming-a-problem-locals-say

An interesting consequence of the larger bear population is the decline in seal pups, a favorite food of them bears. Have you seen the National Geographic video of a bear killing a seal – something a bear needs to do about every 5 days? It is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oh8GgRaYT0&feature=related
Bears also eat walrus, whales and birds; populations that are at risk as the bear population grows.

Asked you, “are you familiar with the teachings of this person you claim to emulate? yeah jesus…?” I have some knowledge of His words and teaching. In the gospel “On the Road to Jerusalem, popularly referred to as “The Good Samaritan” he applauded the man who helped the fellow who had been robbed. The “good…” comforted that fellow, helped him up, put him on his donkey, brought him to a care giver and payed for that man’s care. Doing personal good for others is the message of Jesus, not calling a social worker or some other tax supported entity. See the Sermon on the Mount. But if you are going to use religion as a justification (although you said “your god didn’t give you the planet, he’s dead.) Then you must look at the 4th, 5th and 9th Commandments and live by them.

INFLAMMATORY, you are right, “al gore is not a climate scientist” BUT he is the icon of your thinking, his movie is the bible of your ideology and he is dead wrong as science has proven.


Steven

September 14, 2010 at 12:03 PM
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I don’t know what is funnier: listening to the GOP talk about economics and fiscal restraint or listening to Democrats talk about peace and diplomacy.


PencilPusher

September 14, 2010 at 12:13 PM
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I wonder if the Lobo ever published a headline that began “NM Democrats Spout …”


phillip howel

September 14, 2010 at 1:20 PM
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INFLAMMATORY, my Libertarian principles tell me too bad for the people of Iraq and Afghanistan who were brutalized by the people in power. Not my job to go there and remove from power evil men. But Human Rights Watch, the UN and others documented the rape of school girls by Saddam’s son, the ultra brutal murders done in public by those in power against those who dared to exercise the free speech and dissent rights we have. I also have Conservative beliefs. They tell me it is wrong to not speak out and act against evil when possible. Let them die or step up to the plate; what is a man to do?

I understand the freedom found in our country comes to us from “the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God…” as written in the Declaration of Independence, and ‘the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity” written in the preamble to the Constitution. And the blood shed to establish and defend such principles. You can write what you wish because freedom of speech is a right that is an inheritance from the Creator, not a right to be controlled by a government.

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So we have freed the people of Iraq from their horrors and have interfered with the brutal stoning executions of women in Afghanistan, and the other indignities forced on them by people who believe government is supreme over man; that people only have the rights the government decides to allow them. And we have gained what by our right and just deeds? The soldiers who are fighting for the liberty of others do so willing- they are volunteers!

Those men who loved God and loved liberty wrote these words so that all might understand God’s gift: “We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness…Governments deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”

My income is the fruit of my labor: it is my property. You have no moral authority to take it from me to do with as you wish. If you wish to pay more to the government, just do so, write a check to the feds or the state and mark it as a donation. Or you can donate to an organization like the Salvation Army or Goodwill that provides help to people. You can donate to UNMMC if you wish. You told us you would like to give more, BUT… . You blast people who have religious beliefs, while quick to cite the teachings of Jesus. This INFLAMMATORY IS recognized as hypocrisy.


inflammatory

September 14, 2010 at 4:59 PM
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close, but no banana. i’m pointing out your hypocrisy.


Eugene

September 14, 2010 at 5:22 PM
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Poor Howel, he has not heard that “climategate” was much ado about nothing:

An independent British report into the leak of hundreds of e-mails from one of the world’s leading climate research centers has largely vindicated the scientists involved . . . The inquiry by former U.K. civil servant Muir Russell into the scandal at the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit found there was no evidence of dishonesty or corruption in the more than 1,000 e-mails stolen and posted to the Internet late last year. . . . “We find that their rigor and honesty as scientists are not in doubt. . .”

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/07/world/main6653464.shtml?tag=topnews

LONDON (AP) — The first of several British investigations into the e-mails leaked from one of the world’s leading climate research centers has largely vindicated the scientists involved. The House of Commons’ Science and Technology Committee said Wednesday that they’d seen no evidence to support charges that the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit or its director, Phil Jones, had tampered with data or perverted the peer review process to exaggerate the threat of global warming – two of the most serious criticisms levied against the climatologist and his colleagues.

In their report, the committee said that, as far as it was able to ascertain, “the scientific reputation of Professor Jones and CRU remains intact,” adding that nothing in the more than 1,000 stolen e-mails, or the controversy kicked up by their publication, challenged scientific consensus that “global warming is happening and that it is induced by human activity.”

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CLIMATE_HACKED_E_MAILS?SITE=ALMON&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

E-mails stolen from climate scientists show they stonewalled skeptics and discussed hiding data — but the messages don’t support claims that the science of global warming was faked, according to an exhaustive review by The Associated Press.

http://www.physorg.com/news179857607.html (posted at PhysOrg.com, “a leading web-based science, research and technology news service”)

Scientific observations and climate model results indicate that human activities are now the primary cause of most of the ongoing increase in Earth’s globally averaged surface temperature.

http://www.eoearth.org/article/Climate_Literacy-_The_Essential_Principles_of_Climate_Sciences


Eugene

September 14, 2010 at 5:36 PM
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Howel’s posts are so confusing.

He reverently cites the preamble to the U.S. Constitution. But later in the same post he writes:

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“My income is the fruit of my labor: it is my property. You have no moral authority to take it from me to do with as you wish. “

So he likes the Preamble, but not Article I, Section 8: “The Congress shall have power To lay and collect taxes…” nor the 16th Amendment: “The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived…”

Howel also notes that in the Declarationof Independence that “…Governments deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”

Does the U.S. Congress not function with our consent? Are we living in a dictatorship? Is Howel advocating treason against our government?

Like I say, so confusing.


Phillip Howel

September 14, 2010 at 10:54 PM
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EUGENE, I shall speak to you last posting first and to your earlier later. Is it not reasonable to say INFLAMMATORY’s position comes from a moral place? He does reference the teaching of Jesus in this “for a christian you seem very concerned with yourself and seem to not give a shit about your fellow man. are you familiar with the teachings of this person you claim to emulate? yeah jesus “ That is what I spoke to, not the legal of the taxing powers found in the Constitution.

“Does the U.S. Congress not function with our consent? Are we living in a dictatorship? Is Howel advocating treason against our government?“ask you EUGENE. How absurd! My explanation was made, as you well know, in the context of showing the stark differences between our government and those of Saddam and the Taliban..

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Our founders believed “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” are rights that come from the Creator, not man. You know exactly what I was saying. Why did you twist my statements as you have?


Phillip Howel

September 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM
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INFLAMMATORY, among the junk stuff you injected is the issue of religion. You brought it into the discussion, not me. Why?

You also chanted another mantra of the left with this, “war for religion(and oil)..” What oil has the USA gotten from our freeing the people of Iraq that we could not have bought in the free marketplace?


obama bin farteen

September 15, 2010 at 9:19 AM
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MR. PH, dude, haven’t you figured it out yet? this flamatory and gene person is one and the same, and probably a teenage high school girl, considering the level of discourse and propensity to immediately to revert to high school level of invective. In other words you’re arguing with an idiot and it threatens to rub off.

Just sayin’


Russ Vaughn

September 15, 2010 at 9:31 AM
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Sloppy Democrats in New Mexico

Are liberals just sloppy by nature? One could make a fairly strong case for that without ever having to go outside the 2500 plus pages of that Obamapeloozi of a health care bill, but just for fun, let’s do with their latest example of “Whoops! Did we really do that?”

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Here in the Land of Enchantment, as most elsewhere in the country, a Democratic dynasty is being threatened by all the missteps that party has taken since seizing the American government two years ago. In a feat which any Democrat quickly will tell you is patently impossible, the supposedly minority-hating Republican Party has nominated a double-minority candidate, Susana Martinez, to run for governor of New Mexico. That’s right, Bubba, the Lady is Hispanic, and on top of it, a no-nonsense, law and order district attorney, who’s tough on illegal immigration and wants to end Bill Richardson’s foolish practice of issuing state drivers’ licenses to illegals.

This tough talking D.A. also wants to bring back the death penalty in New Mexico, which Bill Richardson did away with in what many of us believe to be a self-serving act considering the breadth and depth of corruption in Big Bill’s administration. If Bill’s pay-to-play systemic sleaze isn’t a capital offense, it damned well should be, although I suppose most of us could be placated with a twenty-year sentence.

Memo to Bill: it’s coming, Jefe, when Republicans regain control of the justice department.

But back to that sloppiness within the opposition; because their liberal Democratic candidate, Diane Denish, Richardson’s see nothing, hear nothing, know nothing Lt. governor for the past eight years of continuous corruption, is losing ground almost as fast as the Pelosi-Reid Congress, out-of-state liberal forces like the unions are riding in to untie her from the tracks ahead of what’s roaring at her in November. This may keep her knotted firmly to the crossties.

The grossly mis-named National Education Association recently began running an ad featuring a comely Hispanic female schoolteacher speaking out in favor of Denish. What neither the Denish campaign folks nor the union money buckets bothered to do was to vet their spokesperson, who, as it turns out, sports a felonious ex-spouse sent to the slammer for 20 years by none other than, you guessed it, our get-tough-on-crime, Republican candidate, Susanna Martinez, who responded very quickly with this. Ooh, Bubba, that’s the kind of klutz that cuts bone deep.

This little oops! moment has drawn national attention from the likes of Karl Rove and Jim Geraghtyand quite similar little blooper on a bit higher plain. but you can rest assured it will be studiously ignored by the Democrat media as was this recent and quite similar little blooper on a bit higher plain.

Do you suppose the NEA encourages its members to proofread their lesson plans?

Naahh…what does that have to do with salaries, benefits and retirements?

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